tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22689845782141048262024-03-08T02:34:03.208-08:00IDAHOMANUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger113125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2268984578214104826.post-83052394091192841772012-02-13T16:15:00.000-08:002012-02-13T16:29:58.882-08:00February Facebook Contest & Giveaway<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-mpaK9Z7kA9g/TzmlYsgj5sI/AAAAAAAAAvs/i77EeWzrU40/s1600/Sitka+Cap.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" height="320" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-mpaK9Z7kA9g/TzmlYsgj5sI/AAAAAAAAAvs/i77EeWzrU40/s320/Sitka+Cap.jpg" width="320" /></a></div>You want this "one-size-fits-most" Sitka cap? Of course you do. Here is how it works:<br />
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1. Befriend me on Facebook <a href="http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003103609729" target="_blank">here</a>, if you haven't already.<br />
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2. Once on my Facebook wall, post a picture of the most scenic spot in your state. We all know Idaho is the most scenic, but it's nice to see other places too.<br />
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3. With your photo, you have to include this comment or caption: "I'd rather be in Idaho, but here's scenic (your state)." Or, if the picture is of Idaho, just include the county and/or city.<br />
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4. The photo with the most "likes" and/or comments wins. Ends 2/29/12 at 11:59 pm.<br />
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<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-64IYo_BmdYQ/Tzmq9qQQtOI/AAAAAAAAAv0/eTSrFpzpjMo/s1600/Sitka+Cap+Header.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" height="274" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-64IYo_BmdYQ/Tzmq9qQQtOI/AAAAAAAAAv0/eTSrFpzpjMo/s320/Sitka+Cap+Header.jpg" width="320" /></a></div>Unknownnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2268984578214104826.post-33529611707490115732012-02-13T13:09:00.000-08:002012-02-13T13:09:09.711-08:00"The Simplot Saga"<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-8XFHCdOgabo/Tzl67Q086LI/AAAAAAAAAvk/1OFdrv0gNKY/s1600/simplot.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" height="273" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-8XFHCdOgabo/Tzl67Q086LI/AAAAAAAAAvk/1OFdrv0gNKY/s320/simplot.jpg" width="270" /></a></div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">One more quick hit for today. If you live in Idaho, or you just want to understand the basis for how this state was built, Forbes magazine has a lengthy and in-depth piece called <a href="http://features.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2012/02/12/simplot-steve-appleton/" target="_blank">"The Simplot Saga."</a></div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">What J.R. did, and what his legacy is doing today, intimately affects most parts of Idaho politics in one way or another. And that includes issues regarding Idaho's land and wildlife.</div><div style="color: black;"> </div><div style="color: black;">Grab a McD's large fry, sit down, and learn.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><i style="color: black;">~ J. Bunch</i>Unknownnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2268984578214104826.post-21209042101988172522012-02-13T12:58:00.000-08:002012-02-13T12:58:11.115-08:00OK, I Will Say Something About Sage Grouse<div style="color: black;">But not much. I know that I should be more attuned to the sage grouse situation. I just can't get too excited about it, and since this site is about what interests me, I'm going to let it go by offering up a couple of recent news articles on the situation. In case you're interested.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;"><a href="http://www.seattlepi.com/news/article/Judge-rejects-challenge-on-sage-grouse-listing-2991130.php" target="_blank">Here is an AP article</a> which reports than an Idaho federal judge ruled against environmental groups who were appealing for instant and greater protection of the sage grouse. </div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">And <a href="http://www.idahostatesman.com/2012/02/13/1992092/judge-b-lynn-winmill-drives-sage.html" target="_blank">here</a> is Rocky Barker's take on the sticky situation in the Idaho Statesman.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">Happy reading.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><i style="color: black;">~ J. Bunch</i>Unknownnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2268984578214104826.post-39468427424433452122012-02-13T12:48:00.000-08:002012-02-13T12:48:59.428-08:00Public Meeting On Proposed Caribou Critical Habitat Gets Feisty<div style="color: black;">Back in the news again are our 3 caribou, and the feds' plan to section off 600 square miles of N. Idaho and Washington as critical habitat for the trio. Of note, again, is that 3 caribou is the average count over the past several years. Last year, no caribou were counted in Idaho or Washington.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">That has locals wondering why we need critical habitat for a species that is virtually not there. Ah hah, says the environmental groups, accusing the locals of missing the point. And that shouldn't need much explaining.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">By policy, the feds are required to assign critical habitat for species that are managed under the Endangered Species Act. Environmental groups finally sued the feds enough, that the feds were finally forced to make their way back into the dark, wet, tea-partied backwoods of Idaho's north country. I wouldn't want to be in their shoes either.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">But they showed up, and took it in the teeth from around 200 locals. The locals will do anything to stop this federal "land grab" (their words) that would harm an economy dependent upon access to the Selkirk woods, where the critical habitat is proposed, a place where logging and sport snowmobiling has already taken hits by federal regulations.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">I believe the locals' attempts will ultimately be futile. But it's important to fight. This situation should be eyed as a prime example of how federal government bureaucracy really gums things up in areas where it should just get lost.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">You can read more on the public meeting <a href="http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2012/02/04/plans_for_caribou_sow_conflict_in_nw/?page=1" target="_blank">here</a>.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;"><i>~ J. Bunch</i></div>Unknownnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2268984578214104826.post-45164212209217824932012-02-10T10:29:00.000-08:002012-02-10T10:31:24.993-08:002012 Hunting Legislation<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-maAMb75TaE0/TzVdfPYZ4oI/AAAAAAAAAvY/Iw6yJtsLjT0/s1600/Capitol.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" height="214" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-maAMb75TaE0/TzVdfPYZ4oI/AAAAAAAAAvY/Iw6yJtsLjT0/s320/Capitol.jpg" width="320" /></a></div><br />
<div style="color: black;">Unfortunately, the legislators are convening in Boise, and doing what they do best. There's a few bills brewing in Boise that concern hunting, and the stench is thick, palpable.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">First is Senate Bill 1282, and it may be the lesser of evils. This would allow landowners in the Landowner Appreciation Program to sell their tags to the highest bidder. In exchange for that right, the landowner would have to make his land available to the public for hunting. This is in line with the IF&G's objective to make as much land as possible open for the public. It is in the same spirit as the Access Yes properties, where landowners are either paid, or get some kind of tax break, for allowing the public to hunt on their land. Okay. And many feel that this is a way to curb hefty trespass fees charged by landowners. Okay. </div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">Second is Senate Bill 1283, sponsored by Sen. Siddoway who owns Juniper Mountain, a high fenced, private elk hunting "opportunity," for those with wallets fat enough to afford that sort of monkeying around. This bill allows landowners to sell Landowner Appreciation tags to the highest bidder, but it does not require the landowner to then make his property available to the public. Hmmm. And that is where the stink is coming from. Sen. Siddoway has not replied to my generous email that inquired for further information. IF&G is not supportive of this bill.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">Third is Senate Bill 1256. This would establish more Governor's Tags that could be auctioned off to the highest bidder. It's a small amount of tags that could really bring in a hefty load of funding to the IF&G. IF&G does not take a stand one way or the other on this one; they're content to see how it plays out. Hunters are divided. Some see it as a beneficial trade off that could provide the funding for more habitat development, etc., even as IF&G's coffers are pretty empty. Others are disturbed that the rich get to buy their way into the premium hunts, while the average Joe spends his life applying and applying and applying. I am basically in that camp, wanting everyone to play by the same rules. Besides that, it seems like a desperate move to keep an unsustainable government "business" in business. Making something permanent by law in this way isn't wise. Finally, all we can hope for if this does pass, is that the accountability for the program has integrity.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">No changes would be best. </div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">There's more. Such as the Idaho Constitutional amendment that would secure hunting and fishing as an indelible right for citizens. Maybe I'll have something to say on that later, but right now I'm burnt out on politics. And it's not even November yet.<br />
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The Idaho Statesman reports on the bills <a href="http://www.idahostatesman.com/2012/02/10/1988576/3-bills-propose-hunting-changes.html" target="_blank">here</a>. </div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">~ J. Bunch</div>Unknownnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2268984578214104826.post-18499803870320217402012-02-09T15:10:00.000-08:002012-02-09T15:36:56.278-08:00Round 1: Sawtooth Elk Zone vs. Teton Elk Zone<div style="color: black;">This is the seventh installment on a series of posts comparing Idaho's any-weapon, antlered, general season elk hunts. For an intro to this series, go <a href="http://www.idahoman.com/2011/11/sweet-17-general-elk-hunt-tournament.html" target="_blank">here</a>.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">For the first post in this series, read <a href="http://www.idahoman.com/2011/12/round-1-dworshak-elk-zone-vs-bear-river.html" target="_blank">Dworshak Elk Zone vs. Bear River Elk Zone</a>.</div><div style="color: black;">For the second post in this series, read <a href="http://www.idahoman.com/2011/12/round-1-snake-river-elk-zone-vs.html" target="_blank">Snake River Elk Zone vs. Palisades Elk Zone</a>.</div><div style="color: black;">For the third post in this series, read <a href="http://www.idahoman.com/2011/12/palouse-elk-zone-vs-mccall-elk-zone.html" target="_blank">Palouse Elk Zone vs. McCall Elk Zone</a>.</div><div style="color: black;">For the fourth post in this series, read <a href="http://www.idahoman.com/2011/12/selway-elk-zone-vs-salmon-elk-zone.html" target="_blank">Selway Elk Zone vs. Salmon Elk Zone</a>.</div><div style="color: black;">For the fifth post in this series, read <a href="http://www.idahoman.com/2012/01/round-1-panhandle-elk-zone-vs-tex-creek.html" target="_blank">Panhandle Elk Zone vs.Tex Creek Elk Zone</a>.</div><div style="color: black;">For the sixth post in this series, read <a href="http://www.idahoman.com/2012/01/middle-fork-elk-zone-vs-dworshak-elk.html" target="_blank">Middle Fork Elk Zone vs. Dworshak Elk Zone</a>. </div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">Here we go comparing the Sawtooth Elk Zone to the Teton Elk Zone. First up, the <u><i><b>Sawtooth</b></i></u>.</div><div style="color: black;"></div><div style="color: black;"><br />
<b>The Hunt</b></div><div style="color: black;"></div><div style="color: black;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-4FVWwFfueZY/TzQzHY44rRI/AAAAAAAAAsM/skuA_1zW4VI/s1600/Sawtooth%2BMap%2B1.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"><img border="0" height="202" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-4FVWwFfueZY/TzQzHY44rRI/AAAAAAAAAsM/skuA_1zW4VI/s320/Sawtooth%2BMap%2B1.JPG" width="320" /></a></div><br />
The A-Tag for the Sawtooth Elk Zone is an archery only season that ran in 2011 from August 30 through September 30. The B-Tag is what we're primarily looking at here, as it is the only any-weapon, antlered-only tag. In 2011, the B-Tag general season ran from October 15 through November 8. So it is a good long season, just over 3 weeks long. But there is a quota on the number of B-Tags sold. The cap is 1,526 tags, and they went on sale to non-residents on 12/1/2010, and to residents on 7/10/2011.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;"><b>Location</b></div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;"><a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-yU0z9RybUhY/TzQzQ6_1JoI/AAAAAAAAAsY/ycFKkHTxPcM/s1600/Sawtooth%2BMap%2B2.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"><img border="0" height="246" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-yU0z9RybUhY/TzQzQ6_1JoI/AAAAAAAAAsY/ycFKkHTxPcM/s320/Sawtooth%2BMap%2B2.JPG" width="320" /></a>Located in the center of the state, the Sawtooth Elk Zone is a popular getaway for Boise and Twin Falls folks. The Sawtooth Mountains are a state emblem right next to the potato. The town of Stanley is the outpost in the middle of the Zone, and Garden Valley is the other one, located on the west end of the Zone. Just a few hours drive from Boise or Twin Falls has made this a popular place to hunt.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">Besides the Sawtooth Mountains, the Stanley Basin is known for its beauty, the Salmon River that runs through it, as do the Middle and South Forks of the Payette River.</div><div style="color: black;"></div><div style="color: black;"><br />
The Zone consists of Game Management Units 33, 34, 35, and 36, covering 1,626,045 acres or 2,540 square miles. </div><div style="color: black;"></div><div style="color: black;"><div><br />
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</tbody></table>Unit 33 contains the small town of Garden Valley, with the Middle Fork of the Payette River running vertically through it. Unit 34 holds Deadwood River and Reservoir on its western side, and the north east corner contains the Frank Church River of No Return Wilderness roadless area. Unit 35 has the South Fork of the Payette River running through it, as well as HWY 21, the main road from Boise to Stanley. The Sawtooth Wilderness area is on the east side of the unit. Unit 36 hosts the town of Stanley in its middle, with the Salmon River and HWY 75 extending to the eastern border of the Zone towards Challis. Southbound HWY 75 goes through the basin to Galena Pass, and over the top towards Ketchum/Sun Valley. The Sawtooth Wilderness sits on the southwest side of the unit, and the Frank Church Wilderness extends down into the northwest corner of the unit.</div></div><div style="color: black;"><b><br />
</b></div><div style="color: black;"><b>Terrain/Land Ownership</b></div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">As for the terrain, you might generally call it mountainous. The Sawtooth Mountains peak out at elevations above 10,000 ft. Fingers extending west from the Sawtooths maintain 8,000 ft. on the ridge tops, and then dive down steepley to 6,000 ft. into the drainages. East of the Sawtooths, across the basin, the terrain is a little more tame, but the further north you go, the mountains get more rugged, where elevations stick in the 7,000 - 8,000 ft. range. The Garden Valley area sits a little less high in the 4,000 - 6,000 ft. range, but those elevations rise the further east you travel.</div><div style="color: black;"></div><div style="color: black;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-EFDmIdMmoeI/TzQzmdDvwnI/AAAAAAAAAs8/5rulzGH3L2A/s1600/Sawtooth1.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" height="228" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-EFDmIdMmoeI/TzQzmdDvwnI/AAAAAAAAAs8/5rulzGH3L2A/s320/Sawtooth1.jpg" width="320" /></a></div>92% of the ground is considered forested, and 5% is considered rangeland. Livestock grazing is minimal in the Zone. Most of the Zone is mountainous, and well forested. But there is a good continual mix of open and wooded areas that generally make this Zone pleasant to hunt. Thus its popularity. It is steep in areas, but more tame than the Middle Fork Elk Zone, and some of the wilder wilderness areas.</div><div style="color: black;"></div><div style="color: black;">The wilderness areas are obviously more remote with their roadless areas, yet the area around Garden Valley has plenty of roads to get you around on. The Zone really has a little bit for every kind of hunter. If you are a do-it-yourself kind of person who likes to hike in several miles where there is guaranteed to be no other traffic, you can have it in the Sawtooth Zone.<br />
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If you like to road hunt, well, there's that too. </div><div style="color: black;"></div><div style="color: black;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-XAr6kYEtde8/TzQzsHu2yvI/AAAAAAAAAtI/cvxZegZ-AKQ/s1600/Sawtooth2.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"><img border="0" height="216" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-XAr6kYEtde8/TzQzsHu2yvI/AAAAAAAAAtI/cvxZegZ-AKQ/s320/Sawtooth2.jpg" width="320" /></a></div>94% of the land in the Zone is public, 3% is private, and the remainder is State of Idaho and BLM. No issues finding a place to hunt and camp here.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
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</div><div style="color: black;">Lots to talk about here. In the mid to late 1800's trappers, hunters, and miners decimated the elk and deer population in this area. In 1909, the Idaho Legislature decided to help the game population recover, and they established the South Fork Game Preserve in Unit 35. No hunting occurred in the Zone until 1945, and the Preserve lasted until 1977. The deer herd rebounded quickly, and by the late '70's, the elk herd had rebounded as well. The elk numbers peaked in the early '90's at over 7,000 elk. Less than half that exists now.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">The desire is to manage this elk herd at relatively high numbers. IF&G would love to have 750 bulls harvested from it every year. That is a lofty goal. Right now the sustainable bull harvest has to be equal or less than 250 bulls. But IF&G wants to see the herd rebound again, balanced only by its concerns about winter feeding grounds.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">The wintering areas are in a mess around the Garden Valley area, where rush skeleton weed has infested the south and west facing slopes, making those thousands of acres useless as winter feeding areas. IF&G implements winter feeding programs approximately two years out of every five.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-qMEvWuFk9HM/TzQzy_3IUJI/AAAAAAAAAtU/C3ZWzomcR7I/s1600/Sawtooth3.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" height="320" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-qMEvWuFk9HM/TzQzy_3IUJI/AAAAAAAAAtU/C3ZWzomcR7I/s320/Sawtooth3.jpg" width="240" /></a></div>Bulls have been over-harvested in the past, and in 2010, the IF&G stated that more bulls are being harvested than are being recruited. Calf recruitment has generally been in the dumps. More on that in a minute. Tag quotas are now a 46% reduction from the 2008 season.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">As for predation issues, the Big 3 (bears, mt. lions, and wolves) are all well established in the Zone. Bear and mountain lions most certainly are elk predators, but the extent of their predation is not known. Wolves, however, are to blame for the declining elk herd in the Sawtooth Zone. In many cases, such as with the Selway Elk Zone, the IF&G will acknowledge that wolves are present, that they are a threat to the elk population, but the extent of the damage done by wolves is not fully known. But with the Sawtooth Zone, the IF&G makes no bones about it. Wolves are a huge issue here.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">In 2009 there were more than 12 packs that were well established. And here's the bit on calf recruitment, and it appears to be tied with wolves. In 2008 and 2009, calf recruitment rates were drastically low. In 2010, the year following the first legal wolf hunt in Idaho, calf recruitment rates spiked up. It will be interesting to compare calf recruitment rates after this wolf hunting season to see if 2010 was an anomaly, or if the wolf hunts may be helping in some way. As of 2/9/2011, 20 wolves have been harvested in the Sawtooth Zone this season.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;"><a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-igwyJal7aDQ/TzQz9Vgqf2I/AAAAAAAAAtg/Xbl77fff9b0/s1600/Sawtooth4.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"><img border="0" height="213" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-igwyJal7aDQ/TzQz9Vgqf2I/AAAAAAAAAtg/Xbl77fff9b0/s320/Sawtooth4.jpg" width="320" /></a>In 2008, a winter survey was taken. 2,696 cows were counted (objective is to have 3,050 - 4,550), and 251 bulls were counted (objective is to have 600 - 975). Of those 251 bulls, 82 mature bulls were counted (objective is to have 355 - 575 mature bulls). Objectives are not being met, and hunter numbers have consequently declined as well, from around 6,000 in 2006 to less than 3,000 in 2010.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">Here's how the stats line up. The only wrinkle in these stats is that Unit 34 has no data, as it was not surveyed. Elk population survey used for this was 2008. I think these numbers are fairly close to reality, however.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;"><div>Elk/Square Mile: 1.2</div><div>Hunters/Square Mile: 0.9</div><div>Bulls/Square Mile: 0.10</div><div>Average Hunter Days: 5.24</div><div>Bull Harvest Percentage: 12%</div><div>Percent Spikes Harvested: 42%</div><div>Percent 6+ points Harvested: 20%</div><div></div><div><br />
<u><i><b>Teton Elk Zone</b></i></u></div><div></div><div><br />
<b>The Hunt</b><br />
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<b>Location</b><br />
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The Teton Zone is squeezed in between the Island Park Elk Zone on the north, and the Palisades Elk Zone on the south. Starting in Sugar City, the border follows HWY 20 up to Ashton, then northeast up through Warm River and to Yellowstone National Park's boundary. The border then goes south on the Wyoming - Idaho border down to HWY 31, and then jogs up to the town of Victor. From Victor the border follows HWY 31 west out of town until it decides to cut off a chunk of the Big Hole Mountains from the Palisades Zone. After taking that watershed for itself, it meets up with HWY 33, and heads west back to Sugar City.<br />
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The Teton Zone is located northeast of Idaho Falls, a roughly 45 minute drive from Idaho Falls to Ashton on HWY 20. Home to rolling malt barley and seed potato fields (Ashton is the seed potato capital of the world), the rolling hills give way to the foothills of the Tetons on the east. Waking up to sunrise over the Tetons is just one bonus to hunting here.<br />
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<b>Terrain/Land Ownership</b><br />
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First, let's talk about where you can hunt in this Zone. 75% of the land here is private, and 24% is BLM and USFS. In a Zone that consists of just 457,617 acres (715 square miles), only about 112,000 acres are on public ground.<br />
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There are two primary places to hunt in the Teton Zone.<br />
The first one is in the USFS land along the Wyoming border. Basically, unlike the east side of the Tetons where the mountains rise straight up 15 million feet from the valley floor, the west side has foothills that gently rise up to where the rocky crags of the Tetons take over. Those foothills spill across the Idaho border for several miles. But it isn't far. Several miles might be generous. This strip of USFS land that is huntable stretches from Warm River on the north down nearly to Driggs.<br />
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Believe me, it doesn't take long to find yourself in Wyoming, so do take caution. Those foothills spilling into Idaho are essentially canyons running east-west with creeks in the bottom. And they are well timbered. It is pretty thick in there. That's not to say that there isn't any breathing room at all; there are meadows here and there. But be prepared for hunting dark timber.<br />
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The second area to hunt in this Zone is in the mountains west of Victor and Driggs, as well as in the tiny corner south of HWY 31, east of Victor. This area of USFS land adds an element of variety. On the whole, it is probably steeper than the area along the Wyoming border, but it is a good mix of open sagebrush, dark timber, and aspen stands. The terrain is very similar to the Palisades Elk Zone, which borders the Teton Zone just to the south.<br />
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<b>Herd Health/Stats</b><br />
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Herd health. Herd health? What herd? Yeah, there's sort of a <br />
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herd here. There has always been an elk presence in the Zone. There has to be. It just looks like an elky kind of place. But the elk presence is really dependent upon weather. Elk summer in the high elevations of the Big Hole Mountains, and work there way down as fall and winter approach. On the north and eastern parts of the Zone, the elk have to be pushed into the area by lots of snow where they summer in Wyoming and in Yellowstone National Park.<br />
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Weather and winter range are the two factors that determine elk presence. There is very little winter range for the elk. The elevation in the Teton Valley is about 6,000 ft., and huntable areas on USFS land generally rise to about 7,000 ft. So this is a high elevation Zone that gets a lot of snowfall, and often extreme temperatures.<br />
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Winter feeding stations are no longer in use, but have consistently been used in the past. This has created dependent elk, too many elk for the real habitat during the winter. Agricultural expansion in the past century, and recent residential development near Victor and Driggs have also taken up rare wintering areas. What wintering areas are left are usually ran over by recreational snowmobiles in the winter. Elk like the woods to be a quiet place. Snowmobiles aren't quiet.<br />
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The most recent winter survey in 2006 counted 173 cows, 125 bulls (of which, 95 were mature bulls). Objectives are to maintain 150-250 cows, 35-55 bulls (of which, 15-35 should be mature). Just not a lot of action here. Approximately 50-60 elk winter SE of Victor, and they usually show up late-winter. Approximately 130 elk retreat from the Big Hole Mts. west of Victor and Driggs, and winter along the Teton River in the basin. Then there's usually a couple of other small groups that descend from Yellowstone. All of this movement is generally after the Oct. 15 - Oct. 21 general season hunt.<br />
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Predation probably is insignificant compared to the weather issues. IF&G says there is a moderate and stable black bear population. I have a hard time believing that it is anything but a high population, especially in the timbered areas. Mt. Lions are rare. Grizzlies are increasing in population, and spreading. Several attacks happened near Driggs/Victor/Jackson in the past year. There are 3 established wolf packs that call the Teton Zone part of their territory, and undoubtedly do have some affect on the elk, but how much exactly is unknown. <br />
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So, the stats; brace yourself:<br />
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<div>Elk/Square Mile: 0.42</div><div>Hunters/Square Mile: 0.15</div><div>Bulls/Square Mile: 0.17</div><div>Average Hunter Days: 5.2</div><div>Bull Harvest Percentage: 5%</div><div>Percent Spikes Harvested: 0%</div><div>Percent 6+ points Harvested: 50%</div><div></div><div><br />
<i><b>Analysis & The Winner </b></i></div><br />
The winner is the Sawtooth Zone. But this was an exercise in comparing two of Idaho's dud Elk Zones. Wolves have made the Sawtooth Zone pretty tough to hunt, especially if you head very far east of Garden Valley. There just isn't the herd that there once was. Hopefully a successful wolf season will help calf recruitment there.<br />
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The Teton Zone could be doable. It's the kind of place that is weather-depending. If the high elevations get heavy snow in early October, the elk will start heading down. Some big bulls have been harvested here, and the cow to bull ratio from surveys shows that a lot of big bulls come down. So there is a chance. But it's too chancy. If I had to plan a hunt, and had to choose between these two, I would take the Sawtooth Zone, get away from where the elk are heavily pressured, and roll the dice. At least there I wouldn't have to worry about turning the corner and finding some mama grizzly glaring at me.<br />
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<i>~ J. Bunch</i></div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;"></div>Unknownnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2268984578214104826.post-1678795340909191102012-02-08T14:03:00.000-08:002012-02-08T14:06:40.796-08:002 Headed Trout in SE Idaho - Simplot Selenium Pollution<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-O60YqJAbg0A/TzLvJxx2GNI/AAAAAAAAAsA/vM9J0g4_jAk/s1600/2%2Bheaded%2Btrout.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" height="206" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-O60YqJAbg0A/TzLvJxx2GNI/AAAAAAAAAsA/vM9J0g4_jAk/s320/2%2Bheaded%2Btrout.jpg" width="320" /></a></div><div style="color: black;">Trout deformities have been popping up in SE Idaho creeks that sit underneath Simplot's Smoky Canyon Phosphate Mine. There would appear to be a connection to selenium pollution.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">Simplot's goal of maintaining no more that 22 parts per million of selenium in creek water is often exceeded, according to an independent environmental report, and the two-headed trout is the most eye-popping of the deformities.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">Naturally, Simplot officials aren't taking any responsibility, but they are stating that they will be working closely with the State of Idaho and the feds in regard to pollution. In other words, they give stock, corporate, politically-correct answers when pushed on the issue.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">Selenium pollution in waters near phosphate mines in SE Idaho has been blamed for hundreds of livestock deaths.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">The concern over the trout is not only the current deformities being found, but by in-migrating trout that will take over habitat that was once occupied by non-reproductive, selenium poisoned trout. If selenium is to blame, but its pollution isn't strictly regulated, a sink hole for trout could be created.<br />
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The Jackson Hole News & Guide has the fuller story <a href="http://www.jhnewsandguide.com/article.php?art_id=8225" target="_blank">here</a>. </div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><i style="color: black;">~ J. Bunch</i>Unknownnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2268984578214104826.post-43307283388764000802012-02-06T13:16:00.000-08:002012-02-06T13:17:10.045-08:00Game Management & The Idaho - Montana Divide<div style="color: black;">Jefferson County, MT ranchers want to institute a county bounty program for wolves. You can read all about that <a href="http://billingsgazette.com/news/state-and-regional/montana/hunters-tell-jefferson-county-think-twice-about-wolf-bounty/article_ca0612aa-1a15-543a-8021-3195e12d5be0.html" target="_blank">here</a> at the Billings Gazette.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">If you remember, I suggested that the issue of bounties should be revisited in <a href="http://www.idahoman.com/2011/12/lets-revisit-issue-of-wolf-bounties.html" target="_blank">this post</a> back in December. I knew that sooner or later bounties would enter the discussion amongst those fed up with wolves.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">But a county bounty program seems problematic for several reasons, one of which is that there can be a lot of fraud with bounties. I don't know how a county could provide bounties without getting taken advantage of. If a hunter kills a wolf in Madison County, and then trucks it to Jefferson County to get the cash, who would know?</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">Jefferson County Commissioners are against the idea, but a majority of ranchers in favor of it could force the county into action. Besides commissioners, sportsmen are speaking out against it.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">"What?!?" was my initial thought. I thought there must be a mistake. Consider this from the article:</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><blockquote class="tr_bq" style="color: black;">Three men who describe themselves as avid hunters and houndsmen said that while they're not big fans of wolves -- and all three were part of the 18,000 people who bought a $19 permit this year to shoot one -- they want the commission to cut FWP and the federal government some slack when it comes to managing wolves. This is only the second year that wolf hunting has been legal in Montana.<br />
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"Give them the chance to learn about this, and let the process work a little bit," said Josh Pallister. "It's not that I love wolves, but we are uneducated about them."</blockquote><div style="background-color: white; border: medium none; color: black; overflow: hidden; text-align: left; text-decoration: none;">While discussing this with some fine folks over at OYOA's <a href="http://onyourownadventures.com/hunttalk/index.php" target="_blank">Hunt Talk Forum</a> (where there is a wealth of information for do-it-yourself adventures), the sentiment of Montana sportsmen seems to be consistent with the quote above. Give Montana FWP a break. Cut the feds some slack. We don't know exactly how much damage the wolves do to the elk. We need to take wolf management slow, and act reasonably. Etc., etc.</div><div style="background-color: white; border: medium none; color: black; overflow: hidden; text-align: left; text-decoration: none;"></div><div style="background-color: white; border: medium none; color: black; overflow: hidden; text-align: left; text-decoration: none;"></div><div style="background-color: white; border: medium none; color: black; overflow: hidden; text-align: left; text-decoration: none;"></div><div style="background-color: white; border: medium none; color: black; overflow: hidden; text-align: left; text-decoration: none;"></div><div style="background-color: white; border: medium none; color: black; overflow: hidden; text-align: left; text-decoration: none;"><br />
It wasn't what I expected. There appears to be a divide in the thinking between Idaho and Montana sportsmen. Most Idahoans I know would rather take a stick to the feds. Cutting the feds "some slack" doesn't even register. And that's just generally speaking. On the issue of wolves, the sentiment runs deeper and more volatile.</div><div style="background-color: white; border: medium none; color: black; overflow: hidden; text-align: left; text-decoration: none;"><br />
</div><div style="background-color: white; border: medium none; color: black; overflow: hidden; text-align: left; text-decoration: none;">Montana wants to manage game with predators. Idaho wants to manage game with hunters. Consider this from the Montana Sportsmen for Fish & Wildlife website on how MT & ID differ on wolf management:</div><div style="background-color: white; border: medium none; color: black; overflow: hidden; text-align: left; text-decoration: none;"><br />
</div><div style="background-color: white; border: medium none; color: black; overflow: hidden; text-align: left; text-decoration: none;"><div style="color: black;"></div><center style="color: black;">MONTANA</center> <div style="color: black;"></div><ul style="color: black;"><li> Wolves on a quota. </li>
<li> NO Trapping </li>
<li> NO baiting </li>
<li> NO snaring </li>
<li> NO electronic calls </li>
<li> One tag per year. </li>
<li> Gun season runs from October 22- Dec 31 </li>
<li> non resident fee $350.00 </li>
<li> Must wear Orange </li>
</ul><div style="color: black;"></div><center style="color: black;">IDAHO</center> <div style="color: black;"></div><ul style="color: black;"><li> NO QUOTA </li>
<li> Trapping YES Nov 15 thru March 31 </li>
<li> Baiting YES </li>
<li> Snaring YES </li>
<li> Electronic calls YES </li>
<li> Gun Season runs from Aug 30 till June 30. </li>
<li> Wolves can be killed during spring bear season. </li>
<li> Each person may kill up to 5 wolves per year between trapping and hunting </li>
<li> You can put a deer tag or elk tag on a wolf during the general hunting season </li>
<li> Non resident tags are $31.75 each </li>
<li> NO Orange </li>
</ul><div style="color: black;">It is quite true that we don't have all of the data on what role the wolves play in the ecology. They are still somewhat of a mystery. But we got rid of them once in Idaho because ranchers and sportsmen wanted them gone. Idaho still feels the same way, and even more so this time <i>because</i> of the fact that the feds forced them down our throat. </div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">While Montana dilly dallies around trying so hard to stay out of the fed's doghouse (where WY has been), Idaho is getting busy by at least trying to take out one of the predators that is harming, to some extent, declining elk populations. I find that comforting, and I hope that it is not the case that Idaho sees a lot of non-resident hunters coming over from MT in 5 years.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><span style="color: black;">~ J. Bunch </span></div><div style="background-color: white; border: medium none; color: black; overflow: hidden; text-align: left; text-decoration: none;"><br />
</div>Unknownnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2268984578214104826.post-61890025052775693112012-02-03T10:17:00.000-08:002012-02-03T13:59:47.357-08:00It's February. Pray For Mule Deer Fawns<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-UcNhXTbBVcU/TywkzfE-MlI/AAAAAAAAAr0/uGQ8QTAl53E/s1600/mule%2Bdeer%2Bfawn%2Bin%2Bsnow.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" height="320" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-UcNhXTbBVcU/TywkzfE-MlI/AAAAAAAAAr0/uGQ8QTAl53E/s320/mule%2Bdeer%2Bfawn%2Bin%2Bsnow.jpg" width="229" /></a></div><br />
<div style="color: black;">Fawn survival and recruitment is the key to healthy mule deer populations, and it's not an easy thing to achieve in Idaho. Fawns have a rough time of it, and who knows what kind of a winter will be in store from year to year. Fortunately, we have had a mild winter so far. But just as challenging is the job of the wildlife biologists to predict survival, and then propose harvest limits for a specific management area.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">Recruitment generally describes when a fawn has made it to its first birthday. Just getting there means that the mule deer has made it through two critical periods of life. The first critical period is generally June and July. Those are the first two months after birth when the little guys and gals are getting their feet wet, and are the obvious target for predators.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">If they can survive those months, the next challenge they will have is late winter, generally February to April. This is when the fat reserves are put to the test. Fawns survive less so than more mature deer during this time period because adults are better able to put on fat during the summer and fall. Less fat means less energy, so malnutrition causes the fawns to become all the more vulnerable to predation and to the elements.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">When comparing fawn survival rates between game management units, the big factors are habitat condition, predation, competition of feed, and herd density between those units. If the habitat can only feed so many mule deer, and the herd is too big for the habitat capacity, and the elk are needing the same feed, and the wolves are surrounding the camp - you have a recipe for disaster, and the fawns are the first to get left out. </div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">The weather may be identical in another unit, but if the habitat is better, the carrying capacity isn't abused, and predation isn't as prevalent, the survival rates will be higher. </div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">But from year to year in a given area, weather is the biggest factor. An unusually cold and wet fall and/or winter only brings on malnutrition quicker. </div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">So how do Idaho's game managers set season harvest limits? First, they do what studies they can on particular mule deer populations, but by January, they have to propose something to the Fish and Game Commission. Season dates and harvest limits are then set in March. That means the dates and limits are set before the results of the studies can be observed in April, May, and June, as the fawns escape winter's clutches, or not.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">Monitoring winter survival is tough, and the biologists do what they can with modeling, but nothing is perfect. It's not difficult to get mule deer populations in big trouble really fast. A couple years of too liberal harvest quotas, followed by a couple of years of drastic weather, and a particular population could be in big trouble.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">It's a volatile situation for the fawns for obvious reasons. And it's volatile for the IF&G who has to answer to sportsmen and the public for any missteps.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><i style="color: black;">~ J. Bunch</i>Unknownnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2268984578214104826.post-30162585913503561452012-02-03T08:57:00.000-08:002012-02-03T08:57:21.053-08:00Upcoming IF&G Public Meetings<div style="color: black;">Don't just moan and cry on internet discussion boards. Help destroy that perception, along with the other one that may be more true of the majority of hunters - hunter apathy.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">Anyway, here's your chance at something more. IF&G will be holding these public info meetings:</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">Idaho Falls, 2/28/2012, 7 PM, Idaho Falls IF&G Regional Office </div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">Rexburg, 3/1/2012, 7 PM, Madison Middle School Media Center</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">Grangeville, 2/27/2012, 5 PM, Senior Citizen Center</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">Moscow, 2/29/2012, 5 PM, Latah County Fairgrounds Exhibit Building</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">Orofino, 3/1/2012, 5 PM, IF&G Clearwater Hatchery</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">Lewiston, 3/8/2012, 5 PM, Lewistion IF&G Region Office</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><i style="color: black;">~ J. Bunch</i>Unknownnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2268984578214104826.post-49976444298078274362012-02-02T13:09:00.000-08:002012-02-02T13:09:42.738-08:00Deer & Elk Outlook For 2012<div style="color: black;">In case you missed what IF&G officials reported to the Commission recently, here is the low-down from IF&G website:</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;"></div><blockquote class="tr_bq" style="color: black;"> Deer and elk numbers are meeting management objectives in most parts of the state, but some hunter numbers are down slightly, Fish and Game officials told the Idaho Fish and Game Commission Thursday, January 26.<br />
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Female elk numbers meet or exceed objectives in 21 of 29 elk management zones; they are below objectives in eight zones. Bull elk meet or exceed objectives in 20 zones and are below objectives in nine.<br />
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Fish and Game plans to conducting aerial surveys in the Panhandle, Elk City, Brownlee, Weiser and Pioneer zones this winter to update elk herd information.<br />
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Mule deer exceed management objectives for buck to doe ratio. All population management units exceed 15 bucks per 100 does. From mid-December to mid-January, Fish and Game biologists captured and radio-collared 277 mule deer, including 195 fawns, in 20 game management units. They are now monitoring 796 radio-marked mule deer in 39 units in 12 population management units as part of annual mule deer survival monitoring effort.<br />
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Dry conditions and the unusually open winter statewide so far this year, have led Fish and Game to change its aerial survey plans because deer are spread widely rather than confined to typical winter range. <br />
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Aerial surveys are planned or underway to estimate populations in Smoky-Bennett, western part of Central Mountains, and Island Park Population Management Unit. Mountain Valley has been postponed until next year.<br />
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Harsh winter conditions last year resulted in the lowest over-winter fawn survival, at 32 percent, and since Fish and Game began monitoring in 1998-99. <br />
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Adult doe mortality was as high as 26-36 percent in four eastern Idaho population management units. <br />
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In response to mule deer monitoring results last year, antlerless hunt tags and some buck hunt tags were reduced. Because of low survival of fawns, a lower buck harvest was predicted for 2011 - few yearling two-points were available.<br />
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It's too early to tell how the mulies will fare this winter, but Fish and Game hopes to get a better idea from the fawns biologists recently captured and radio-collared. <br />
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White-tailed deer also are meeting management objectives for buck harvest throughout the state. <br />
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All whitetail data analysis units are meeting management plan objectives for buck harvest and percent of five-points in the harvest. Unit 4 was slightly below objectives for hunter number and hunter days, but whitetails are not the major focus for hunters in these units. <br />
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Whitetail numbers have been improving since the losses during 2007-2008 and 2008-2009 winters in the northern part of state. So far the outlook is positive for good numbers next fall.<br />
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No formal population surveys were conducted for whitetails. <br />
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Fish and Game managers will bring proposed 2012 deer and elk seasons to the Idaho Fish and Game Commission in late March.<br />
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The Clearwater Region has set four open house meetings to discuss proposed changes to the 2012 big game season. All meetings will be from 5 to 7 p.m.<br />
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<ul><li>Monday, February 27, Senior Citizens Center, County Road, Grangeville.</li>
<li>Wednesday, February 29, Latah County Fairground Exhibit Bldg, 1021 Harold, Moscow.</li>
<li>Thursday, March 1, Fish and Game Clearwater Hatchery, 18 Hatchery Roe Drive (downstream of the North Fork Clearwater River), Orofino.</li>
<li>Thursday, March 8, Fish and Game regional office, 3316 16th St., Lewiston.</li>
</ul></blockquote><div style="color: black;">That news was pretty much to be expected. Hopes are that the rest of the winter will be animal-friendly.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">I'm sure there will be more detailed information coming down soon. Stay tuned.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><i style="color: black;">~ J. Bunch</i>Unknownnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2268984578214104826.post-69028052100225990632012-02-01T11:31:00.000-08:002012-02-01T11:31:59.226-08:00Facebook Contest Winning Photo<div style="color: black;">Travis Olsen was the lucky winner in January's photo contest on <a href="http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003103609729" target="_blank">Idaho Man's Facebook page</a>. The prize was a year subscription to <a href="http://extremeelk.com/" target="_blank">Extreme Elk Magazine</a>, a new magazine focusing on DIY elk hunting. Stay tuned for the February contest rules and prizes.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">Here's the shot, a beautiful sunrise over Mt. McCaleb near Mackay, ID:</div><br />
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</div><i style="color: black;">~ J. Bunch</i>Unknownnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2268984578214104826.post-83810295909915201852012-01-31T10:12:00.000-08:002012-01-31T10:12:27.809-08:00Idaho Elk: A Perfect Storm Of Polemics<div style="color: black;">In pitting the polemics of two different views against each other, sometimes the truth seems to be lost, sifted carelessly down to the ground between the two poles. </div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">Talk to ranchers and sportsmen, and you'll quickly find that they want every wolf in the world dead. Incidentally, I'm pretty much on board with that. I've never been a canine fan anyway. I see wolves as just overgrown coyotes, i.e. - nuisances. </div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">Now, of course, I don't want every wolf in the world dead. I just want the ones that were introduced into Idaho by the federal government to be dead, gone, poof. Why? Well, we had wolves in the past, but we annihilated them effectively with a bounty program. We did that because we did not want them around, plain and simple. They were nuisances to ranchers, sportsmen, and the general public. We didn't want wolves any more than we wanted cockroaches. That's true for today too.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">But the polemics of sportsmen often include the argument that the wolves are entirely to blame for the state's declining elk herds, at least, and they may say it includes moose and deer as well. And the facts are there if you look at the numbers. At the same time wolves were introduced and becoming established in Idaho, Idaho's elk herd populations plummeted, especially in the areas where the wolves were given their new homes. Clearly, then, wolves are the cause of the evil.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">For instance, in 1989 the Lolo Zone in North-Central Idaho held somewhere nears 17,000 head of elk. Today, that number is less than 2,500. Wolf packs there are what the IF&G would call "well established." </div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">On the other pole, environmentalists and wolf-lovers argue that the wolves do such an insignificant predation on the elk there, that it hardly deserves mentioning, and their polemics throw accusations at those who say otherwise. Ranchers and sportsmen are just ignorant when it comes to environmental and ecological issues. In fact, most of them probably wonder if ranchers and sportsman even know what "ecological" means; it is a big word, after all.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">The truth is that a lot of the sportsmen I talk to, while they may know some principles of ecology, don't know how bad the habitat just so happens to be in the same areas where the elk populations have declined dramatically. The Lolo, the Selway, and much of North Idaho, places where wolves are "well established," also have some of the worst elk habitat in the state. </div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">It hasn't always been that way, though. Massive forest fires earlier in the 20th Century created excellent habitat in those places. And current fire suppression management activities by the Forest Service have helped to prevent that from happening again. So can we just blame everything on the federal government? Sure, I'm fine with that, but I digress.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">The bottom line is that there is a perfect storm of factors that has led to declining elk populations in Idaho. It's not just one factor - wolves, or another - habitat loss. It's both. And both sides in the debate would do well to drop their strict polemics and realize that.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
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</div>Unknownnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2268984578214104826.post-58650345967554755182012-01-30T12:50:00.000-08:002012-02-09T08:47:10.832-08:00Round 1: Middle Fork Elk Zone vs. Dworshak Elk Zone<div style="color: black;">This is the sixth installment on a series of posts comparing Idaho's any-weapon, antlered, general season elk hunts. For an intro to this series, go <a href="http://www.idahoman.com/2011/11/sweet-17-general-elk-hunt-tournament.html" target="_blank">here</a>.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">For the first post in this series, read <a href="http://www.idahoman.com/2011/12/round-1-dworshak-elk-zone-vs-bear-river.html" target="_blank">Dworshak Elk Zone vs. Bear River Elk Zone</a>.</div><div style="color: black;">For the second post in this series, read <a href="http://www.idahoman.com/2011/12/round-1-snake-river-elk-zone-vs.html" target="_blank">Snake River Elk Zone vs. Palisades Elk Zone</a>.</div><div style="color: black;">For the third post in this series, read <a href="http://www.idahoman.com/2011/12/palouse-elk-zone-vs-mccall-elk-zone.html" target="_blank">Palouse Elk Zone vs. McCall Elk Zone</a>.</div><div style="color: black;">For the fourth post in this series, read <a href="http://www.idahoman.com/2011/12/selway-elk-zone-vs-salmon-elk-zone.html" target="_blank">Selway Elk Zone vs. Salmon Elk Zone</a>.</div><div style="color: black;">For the fifth post in this series, read <a href="http://www.idahoman.com/2012/01/round-1-panhandle-elk-zone-vs-tex-creek.html" target="_blank">Panhandle Elk Zone vs.Tex Creek Elk Zone</a>.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">Here we go comparing the Middle Fork Elk Zone to the Dworshak Elk Zone. First up, the <u><i><b>The Middle Fork</b></i></u>.</div><br />
<div style="color: black;"></div><div style="color: black;"><b>The Hunt</b></div><div style="color: black;"></div><br />
<div style="color: black;">The season dates for the general season elk hunts in the Middle Fork Zone (Units 20A, 26, and 27) are pretty exciting. Like the Selway Zone, there is an early season when the bulls are dead in the middle of their rut. In 2011, you had to choose between the A-tag or the B-tag. </div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;"><a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-lzT5D7b2lPg/Tyb_AbYIrBI/AAAAAAAAAp4/OUepG3850EI/s1600/Middle%2BFork%2BZone%2BMap%2B2.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"><img border="0" height="310" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-lzT5D7b2lPg/Tyb_AbYIrBI/AAAAAAAAAp4/OUepG3850EI/s400/Middle%2BFork%2BZone%2BMap%2B2.JPG" width="400" /></a>The A-tag ran from Oct. 1 - Oct. 31, and was any antlered elk in Units 20A & 26. In Unit 27, only brow-tined bulls may have been harvested. There were only 647 tags available for this hunt, and they went on sale as a first-come-first-served basis, first for non-residents on 12/1/10 and for residents on 7/10/11.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">The B-tag ran from Sep. 15 - Sep. 30, and the rules were the same as described above for the A-tag: any antlered bull in Units 20A & 26, and brow-tined only in Unit 27. The B-tag also had a second season, Nov. 1 - Nov. 18, with the same rules as above. 1,636 B-tags was the quota, and they were first-come-first-served as described above.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;"><b>Location</b></div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">The Middle Fork Zone sits sandwiched between the Selway Wilderness on the north, the Salmon Elk Zone on the east, the Sawtooth Elk Zone to the south, and the McCall Elk Zone on the west. This is primitive Idaho at its finest. Wanting to get away from it all? This is big and wild country, and it rivals <br />
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</div><div style="color: black;">Access to the Zone is limited. While it is not all designated wilderness area, roads are not plenteous going in or out. You can access the area by going through Yellowpine or Challis, and a few other places on Forest Service roads. But a big part of planning to go hunt the Middle Fork Zone is determining where you want to go, and how to get in and out. Most folks will suggest horses, at least. Flying in is also an option, along with choosing the right guide and/or outfitter. Backpacking in is also an option, but, as we shall see shortly, this is rugged territory.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;"><b>Terrain/Land Ownership</b></div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">The terrain is mountainous. River bottoms will be found at 4,000 - 4,500 ft. in elevation, and mountain tops will easily peak out above 9,000 ft. I would say that the average draw to ridgetop elevations will be between 6,000 ft. to <br />
8,000 ft., and it is mostly ridge after ridge after ridge of the same beautiful, remote country, over and over again. Bring a compass. You will feel small.</div><div style="color: black; text-align: left;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black; text-align: left;"><div class="" style="clear: both;"><a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-PtgRB3C2QR8/TycBOD_tWDI/AAAAAAAAAqY/1MU-ZKqF7Uc/s1600/Middle%2BFork%2B1.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"><img border="0" height="300" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-PtgRB3C2QR8/TycBOD_tWDI/AAAAAAAAAqY/1MU-ZKqF7Uc/s400/Middle%2BFork%2B1.jpg" width="400" /></a>As I said earlier, a big chunk (36%) of the Zone is wilderness. The remainder is USFS. There is virtually no private ground here, and very little of it is used for livestock grazing. Once you get in, the only thing limiting where or how you hunt will be your own legs (or your horse's). But don't let me scare you off entirely. This hunt is doable, and exciting. It offers hunts during the peak of the rut, but you must be able to track down that bull that you heard bugle over the next ridge. It's tough, but for the guys who are in good shape, the terrain can be more of a</div>motivating challenge. Even if you pack in on horses, you'll have to leave the horses to stalk elk, and when you do, there will be some serious uphill-downhill hiking.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">The Zone consists of 1,846,323 acres, or 2,885 square miles.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;"><b>Heard Health/Stats</b></div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;"><a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-qoOssA43xwk/TycBYpznc8I/AAAAAAAAAqk/Xqb-lsuFW7I/s1600/Middle%2BFork%2B2.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" height="275" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-qoOssA43xwk/TycBYpznc8I/AAAAAAAAAqk/Xqb-lsuFW7I/s400/Middle%2BFork%2B2.jpg" width="400" /></a>Earlier in the 20th Century, elk were not very numerous here. It wasn't until the 1970's that the elk population really took off and established itself. The population continued to grow until about 10-15 years ago. Many will point out immediately that wolf introduction happened at about the same time. This is true, and the wolves definitely have had an impact on the heard health. But habitat is just as much, and probably much more, of a factor.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">Fire suppression management is the big one. The Forest Service manages virtually 100% of this Zone, so they are the ones to blame one way or another. As we all know, forest fires produce excellent elk habitat. Efforts to minimize the fires hurt the elk habitat. Specifically in this Zone, elk populations have risen and fallen in direct parallel to fire activity. </div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">Units 20A & 26 have seen their elk herds decrease dramatically in the last 10-15 years, but Unit 27 hasn't been as drastic. Herds there increased up until 8-10 years ago, and since then there has been a steady decrease. In Unit 27, bull to cow ratios are very low, and this has been a result of poor calf production. Yes, the habitat is a big issue, but the observed herd health in Unit 27 shows that predators are taking a toll as well.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;"><a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ySIcROy3XAE/TycBgG6MD4I/AAAAAAAAAqw/-kOWsA64cOg/s1600/Middle%2BFork%2B3.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"><img border="0" height="300" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ySIcROy3XAE/TycBgG6MD4I/AAAAAAAAAqw/-kOWsA64cOg/s400/Middle%2BFork%2B3.jpg" width="400" /></a>Black bear numbers are low and steady. Mountain lion populations are high. Wolves are well established. IF&G managers see the wolves as being potentially very helpful to the herd's health by keeping elk populations below habitat capacity. But that's not a point you'd want to try to prove at the bar in Challis while talking with other hunters. It's debatable. On the issue of wolves, I believe the truth is somewhere in the middle. The wolves are hurting the elk, no doubt. But there is a perfect storm right now of decreasing habitat and increasing wolves. The ideal, for the hunter, is increasing habitat and decreasing wolves - obviously.</div><div style="color: black;"></div><br />
<div style="color: black;">Objectives are to maintain between 3,850 - 5,750 cows, 950 - 1,550 bulls (of which 600 - 900 should be mature bulls). The 2006 survey counted 5,137 cows, and 834 bulls (of which 450 were mature bulls). 2010 was the last year that anterless elk hunts were conducted in the Zone. But antleress harvests were minimal, and it had no significant impact on the herd health. The main <br />
<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-eNjj9L5UHJ8/TycBmEMKpJI/AAAAAAAAAq8/xFzc0ycDm9M/s1600/Middle%2BFork%2B4.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" height="207" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-eNjj9L5UHJ8/TycBmEMKpJI/AAAAAAAAAq8/xFzc0ycDm9M/s400/Middle%2BFork%2B4.JPG" width="400" /></a></div>objective is to increase cows in Units 20A and 26, and to increase bull numbers in all of the Zone.</div><div style="color: black;"></div><div style="color: black;">Here's the stats. 2006 survey data was used, and I have little doubt that the population levels have decreased since then. 2010 data was used for the harvest records. So the stats below are probably a little optimistic, but well within reason.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;"><div>Elk/Square Mile: 2.0</div><div>Hunters/Square Mile: 0.4</div><div>Bulls/Square Mile: 0.29</div><div>Average Hunter Days: 5.9</div><div>Bull Harvest Percentage: 13%</div><div>Percent Spikes Harvested: 5%</div><div>Percent 6+ points Harvested: 57%</div><div></div><br />
<div><i><u><b>Dworshak Elk Zone </b></u></i></div></div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">I've described the Dworshak Elk Zone <a href="http://www.idahoman.com/2011/12/round-1-dworshak-elk-zone-vs-bear-river.html" target="_blank">here</a>. So go there and read about it, and then come back here to see which Zone I think gives you the better chance at harvesting a bull.</div><div style="color: black;"></div><br />
<div style="color: black;"><i><b>Analysis & The Winner </b></i></div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">Elk per square mile is basically the same for both the Dworshak and the Middle Fork. Hunters per square mile is much different, however. There is considerably less pressure in the Middle Fork's remote wilderness, with 0.4 hunters per square mile there compared to 1.4 in the Dworshak Zone. Bulls per square mile is similar between the two Zones, with Dworhak only being slightly higher. </div><div style="color: black;"></div><br />
<div style="color: black;">The kinds of bulls harvested finds the two Zones on opposite ends, and much of that has to do with the brow-tined only restrictions in Unit 27. In the Middle Fork, 5% of the harvest is spikes, while 57% are 6-pointers or better. In the Dworshak Zone, 42% are spikes, while only 15% have six points or better. In the end, however, the bottom line stat is this. In the Middle Fork, you have a 13% chance of filling your tag, while in the Dworshak Zone, that decreases to 7%.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">Bull numbers are down in both Zones. But the odds of you finding a really decent one reside in the Middle Fork. The Middle Fork's terrain is certainly more difficult to hunt in, but on the other hand, it offers a lot more glassing/spot and stalk opportunities. </div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;"><div style="color: black;">In the end, as difficult as it may be to get into the Middle Fork's wilderness, the odds of harvesting a bull are greater there. The vistas are rewarding too. And if you make an elk trip there, I'm certain it will be an adventure to remember. Middle Fork Elk Zone is the winner!</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
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</div><div style="color: black;">First, I'm giving away a free subscription to <a href="http://extremeelk.com/" target="_blank">Extreme Elk Magazine</a> via a Facebook contest. Let me make it easy for you, all you have to do is <a href="http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003103609729" target="_blank">go here, befriend me</a>, and post a hunting, fishing, or outdoors photo on my wall. The person with the most likes before the deadline on Jan. 31, 2012, will win the magazine subscription. The only rule is that the photo must be taken in Idaho, unless you're an out of state Idaho enthusiast who can't come up with that sort of thing. In that case, take a picture of yourself holding a map of the State of Idaho in a pub or something.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">Second, wolves. Alex Sakariassen of the Missoula Independent wrote an <a href="http://missoulanews.bigskypress.com/gyrobase/whats-eating-the-elk/Content?oid=1532468&storyPage=1" target="_blank">interesting piece</a> on how the Montana Fish, Wildlife & Parks Department is doing on their study of the elk herd reduction in Montana's Clark Fork region. While wolves are generally to blame, they are finding just as many, or more, elk kills from mountain lions. Guides, outfitters, ranchers are skeptical, and no matter the results of the study, they wish the wolves were gone.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">On the other hand, federal agencies in Colorado have not ruled out the possibility of introducing wolves to control an elk population that is allegedly out of control. You can imagine who is taking sides down there, and you can read all about the foolishness <a href="http://billingsgazette.com/news/state-and-regional/montana/federal-wildlife-officials-consider-wolves-to-control-elk/article_f129edd0-8f5a-5425-905a-bedfe61419c3.html" target="_blank">here</a>.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">Meanwhile, Idahoans are doing what they can to reduce the wolf population. As of today, 202 (16 more than on Jan. 11) wolves have been killed with a firearm, and 59 (17 more than on Jan. 11) have been trapped. Trapping in the Selway Wilderness appears to be more effective than hunting wolves with a firearm.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">If you need help finding a wolf to kill, there are a couple of gents out there who are mapping wolf sightings. One is <a href="http://www.northwestwolfsightings.org/Map.html%20" target="_blank">here</a>, and the other is <a href="http://ridgelineoutdoors.com/wolf_map.html" target="_blank">here</a>. If you see a wolf, wolf tracks, wolf droppings, wolf kills, or wolf eyes glowing back at you on the edge of the woods, I'm sure those guys would love your report.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">Coming up next week - </div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">A look at hunting OTC, general season elk in the Middle Fork Zone. You won't want to miss that.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">Also, I'm hoping to interview somebody knowledgeable and experienced when it comes to grizzlies in Idaho's wild. It seems that there was a record this last year of grizzly attacks both in Idaho and in Montana. I'm wanting some grizzly stories that will have you going to sleep with a can of bear spray next to your bed.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">Have a good weekend. Thanks for reading my posts, and all of the kind comments.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><i style="color: black;">~ J. Bunch</i>Unknownnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2268984578214104826.post-53809926869432364622012-01-25T11:17:00.000-08:002012-01-26T10:15:41.438-08:00Facebook Contest & Giveaway! - Prize: Subscription To Extreme Elk Magazine<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-PtB2gRqDzEM/TyBVM_r5UUI/AAAAAAAAApU/k9kjQQMeuZI/s1600/idahoman.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" height="240" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-PtB2gRqDzEM/TyBVM_r5UUI/AAAAAAAAApU/k9kjQQMeuZI/s320/idahoman.jpg" width="320" /></a></div><div style="color: black;">Befriend me on Facebook. Then enter the contest:</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">Contest & Giveaway: Post an Idaho hunting, fishing, or outdoors photo on <a href="http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003103609729" target="_blank">Idahoman's Facebook page</a>. Then get all of your friends to "like" your photo. The person with the most "likes" wins a 1 - year subscription to Extreme Elk Magazine, including an elk hunting DVD. Contest ends at midnight on 1/31/12!</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">You can check out the prize at <a href="http://extremeelk.com/" target="_blank">Extreme Elk Magazine</a>.<br />
</div><div style="color: black;"><b>The photo submitted must have been taken in Idaho!</b><br />
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<b>Or, if you have no such picture in Idaho, you can take a picture of yourself holding an Idaho map in a pub or outdoors. Fair enough for you out-of-staters? </b></div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><i style="color: black;">~ J. Bunch</i>Unknownnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2268984578214104826.post-85665558437455059732012-01-24T15:55:00.000-08:002012-01-24T15:55:28.112-08:00Place: Hidden Springs, Idaho<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-tbOyn-UXyGQ/Tx9EZGpltWI/AAAAAAAAApE/76MqoY3M3b4/s1600/Stack+Rock.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" height="480" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-tbOyn-UXyGQ/Tx9EZGpltWI/AAAAAAAAApE/76MqoY3M3b4/s640/Stack+Rock.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><br />
<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-XgZRFmz14pM/Tx9Eu5VpwdI/AAAAAAAAApM/VGeqBhq55HM/s1600/Desert+Stops+There.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" height="480" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-XgZRFmz14pM/Tx9Eu5VpwdI/AAAAAAAAApM/VGeqBhq55HM/s640/Desert+Stops+There.jpg" width="640" /></a></div>Unknownnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2268984578214104826.post-25455599994362025622012-01-23T16:00:00.000-08:002012-01-23T16:02:54.260-08:00The Sheep That Stopped The Grizzly<div style="color: black;">Sarah Gilman of High Country News provided us with an <a href="http://www.hcn.org/blogs/goat/sheep-versus-bear-agency-versus-agency" target="_blank">informative piece</a> on the little sheep station that could - talking, of course, about the feds' ARS Sheep Experiment Station. The station, headquartered near Dubois, ID, has been minding its own business for years, providing research information to the sheep industry. But then came the grizzly bear, the Endangered Species Act, and other federal agencies whose conservationist mandates have come into direct conflict with the station's sheep experimentation.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">The place is the Centennial Mountains, an east to west range on the Idaho-Montana border. If you're having a hard time pinning the place in your mind, think of the range on the border that stretches from Island Park west toward Spencer. The station grazes sheep there as part of their research, as they always have. The problem is that the grizzly bears are moving into the area, and conservationists who want the grizzly population to do what it will, know that the sheep are their biggest obstacle.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">But how do the sheep keep the grizzlies from moving on, further up and further in to the rest of Idaho's and Montana's unadulterated grizzly habitat? It's simple. If a grizzly eats a sheep, he's a dead grizzly. The fear is that the grizzlies may become such a predation problem that the only solution is to put them down. But the sheep station doesn't see it the same way. </div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">The station says it won't be a problem. The conservationists say it will. Who's right? I don't know, but it would seem that the conservationists probably are. If the grizzly gets a taste of one lamb, the station might not scream. But if he comes back for more, and then more, and then more... well, the scream will come sooner or later from a research station running out of sheep to research. And I do imagine that the grizzly will come back for more chops.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">But this sort of internal bickering, while amusing, doesn't even get to the crux of the related issue that nobody seems to be talking about. That is - why exactly do we want the grizzly bears to spread anyway?</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">I understand that conservationists, and the federal agencies that carry out the agenda, want the wild to transform back to the way that Lewis and Clark found it. And the Centennial Mountains are the link to getting grizzlies back up into Montana, and up all the way into the Selway Wilderness. That is their goal, and it's not one that I share.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">So for now, I hope the little sheep hold in there as the trap that can keep the grizzlies back.<br />
</div><div style="color: black;"></div><i style="color: black;">~ J. Bunch</i>Unknownnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2268984578214104826.post-74565923119429086492012-01-20T14:20:00.000-08:002012-01-20T14:35:40.084-08:00Squeaking & Why The Caribou Issue Is Important<div style="color: black;"></div><div style="color: black;">As I reported <a href="http://www.idahoman.com/2011/11/you-and-woodland-caribou.html" target="_blank">here</a> and <a href="http://www.idahoman.com/2011/12/our-3-caribou-counties-starting-to-get.html" target="_blank">here</a>, the United States Fish & Wildlife Service has proposed that nearly 600 square miles of North Idaho and Eastern Washington be designated as critical habitat for the woodland caribou that frequent the area. And just to give you some specific numbers, in case you are just getting up to speed on the issue, we are talking about 3 caribou that are sometimes seen in Idaho. No caribou have been counted in Washington. Most of the woodland caribou reside permanently in British Columbia.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">But this 600 square miles in the Selkirk Mountains is within the borders of Boundary County in Idaho, and residents there have concerns about the designation - most notably are questions on how it will affect the economy and access to the area. </div><blockquote class="tr_bq" style="color: black;"><span class="text">"There has been tremendous concern raised in Boundary County, where most of this critical habitat is proposed, about what this proposal will do to the people here as regards its impact on the local economy, recreation, limitations on how that land may be used and accessed, how our emergency service providers can go about responding to situations on these lands when fire breaks out or when someone's life is on the line," commission chair Ron Smith said. "We're looking for a lot of answers, and we look forward being able to present the questions."</span> </blockquote><div style="color: black;"></div><div style="color: black;">County Commissioners acted quickly and formed coalitions with other counties and various interested parties. After Boundary County formally invoked the U.S. Constitution in order to establish a working relationship with the USF&WS, the feds responded by agreeing to hold meetings and hearings before the final decision will be made on the designation.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">But the USF&WS was stunned that the local residents who might be impacted by the designation wanted answers to questions, wanted to raise concerns, and wanted their voice to be heard.</div><blockquote class="tr_bq" style="color: black;"><span class="text">Thanks to the efforts of Boundary County Commissioners, working with the KVRI, <i><b>the USFWS, whose representatives appeared stunned by the vociferous outcry expressed January 9, as they expected only an informational meeting with a dedicated group of people they have worked with for years largely outside the public eye</b></i>, may now have a better understanding of the concerns of the community, and they will be better able to prepare their information and data so as to provide the detailed information the citizens of Boundary County are demanding and need.</span></blockquote><div style="color: black;">Stunned? Wow. </div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">Most of you won't be impacted by any caribou any time soon. But there is a likely chance that you will be impacted by the USF&WS, especially when they might find themselves twiddling their thumbs, and looking for something to do.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">So learn the lesson from Boundary County. Squeak when things don't seem quite right. Instead of being plowed over with a critical habitat designation handed down from on high, a designation that they have no idea what the consequences might be, they squeaked. And in return they received an agreement to hold two public meetings, where information can be obtained, and two public hearings, where the informed public can raise their concerns.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">What will happen in the end? There will be no vote. In the end the USF&WS will do what they want.<br />
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As an example for those of you on the far side of the state from the caribou issue, keep an eye on the Bear River Watershed Conservation Area that is being proposed by the USF&WS (<a href="http://www.idahoman.com/2012/01/announcing-bear-river-watershed.html" target="_blank">here</a> is that story). They want to work to purchase conservation easements from willing sellers in the Bear River Watershed in Idaho, Wyoming, and Utah. If this proposed program provokes any questions on how it will affect you, sqeak. </div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;"><a href="http://www.ruralnorthwest.com/artman/publish/article_10951.shtml" target="_blank">Here</a> is the full story from www.ruralnorthwest.com. </div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><i style="color: black;">~ J. Bunch</i>Unknownnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2268984578214104826.post-54443528308730571462012-01-19T12:41:00.000-08:002012-01-19T13:04:27.174-08:00Round 1: Panhandle Elk Zone vs. Tex Creek Elk Zone<div style="color: black;">This is the fifth installment on a series of posts comparing Idaho's any-weapon, antlered, general season elk hunts. For an intro to this series, go <a href="http://www.idahoman.com/2011/11/sweet-17-general-elk-hunt-tournament.html" target="_blank">here</a>.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">For the first post in this series, read <a href="http://www.idahoman.com/2011/12/round-1-dworshak-elk-zone-vs-bear-river.html" target="_blank">Dworshak Elk Zone vs. Bear River Elk Zone</a>.</div><div style="color: black;">For the second post in this series, read <a href="http://www.idahoman.com/2011/12/round-1-snake-river-elk-zone-vs.html" target="_blank">Snake River Elk Zone vs. Palisades Elk Zone</a>.</div><div style="color: black;">For the third post in this series, read <a href="http://www.idahoman.com/2011/12/palouse-elk-zone-vs-mccall-elk-zone.html" target="_blank">Palouse Elk Zone vs. McCall Elk Zone</a>.</div><div style="color: black;">For the fourth post in this series, read <a href="http://www.idahoman.com/2011/12/selway-elk-zone-vs-salmon-elk-zone.html" target="_blank">Selway Elk Zone v. Salmon Elk Zone</a>.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">Here we go comparing the Panhandle Elk Zone to the Tex Creek Elk Zone. First up, the <u><i><b>Panhandle</b></i></u>.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;"><b>The Hunt</b></div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">Idaho has two types of over-the-counter elk tags that can be chosen. An A-tag and the B-tag are usually offered for each elk zone. The difference between the two will differ from elk zone to elk zone, but the differences usually lie in season dates, weapon options, or sex of animal to hunt.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; color: black; text-align: center;"><a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-lsxLjNWJudA/Txh968jI7NI/AAAAAAAAAnU/rI_8u2C24zg/s1600/Panhandle+1+to+5.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" height="288" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-lsxLjNWJudA/Txh968jI7NI/AAAAAAAAAnU/rI_8u2C24zg/s320/Panhandle+1+to+5.JPG" width="320" /></a></div><div style="color: black;">The Panhandle Zone offers OTC, any-weapon, antlered hunts on both the A-tag and the B-tag. Here's the breakdown. On the 2011 A-tag you could hunt Unit 1, 2, 3, 4, 4A & 5 from Oct. 25 - Oct. 31. You could also hunt Unit 6, 7 & 9 from Oct. 25 - Oct. 29. So, mark that - that is the A-tag.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">The B-tag begins a little earlier, and adds some variety. You could hunt Unit 1, 2, 3, 4, 4A & 5 from Oct. 10 - Oct. 31. And in those you Units you had the option of harvesting any elk on Oct. 15 - Oct. 19. Also on the B-tag: you could hunt Unit 6, 7 & 9 from Oct. 10 - Oct. 24, and you could harvest any elk in Unit 6 on Oct. 15 - Oct. 16.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">Got it?</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">As I look at the options for any-weapon hunters, I don't know why you would purchase anything beside the B-tag. The B-tag has longer seasons, they begin earlier, and there is a brief window where you can fill your freezer with a cow if you haven't chased down the monster bull. Archers will probably find the A-tag more interesting, as it allows for a late season archery hunt in December. Muzzleloaders will also probably find the A-tag more attractive as well.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">As far as when hunters will first be in the woods in the Zone, early archery dates began August 30 and lasted until September 30. Then there's a break until the any-weapon seasons begin on Oct. 10.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;"><b>Location</b></div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; color: black; text-align: center;"><a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-iQIkdsToUkk/Txh-F-SgCqI/AAAAAAAAAnc/ytHmcsYsfs8/s1600/Panhandle+6+to+9.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"><img border="0" height="293" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-iQIkdsToUkk/Txh-F-SgCqI/AAAAAAAAAnc/ytHmcsYsfs8/s320/Panhandle+6+to+9.JPG" width="320" /></a></div><div style="color: black;">This Zone basically encompasses the entirety of the northern Idaho panhandle. The north boundary is the Canadian border. The west boundary is the State of Washington. On the east, Montana. The southern part of the Zone is the only somewhat tricky part. From east to west, the boundary follows the divide between the St. Joe River and the N. Fork of the Clearwater River. From there... well, I could bore you with all of the other watershed divides as the boundary makes its way from Montana to Washington, but I'd rather spend my time giving you a <a href="http://fishandgame.idaho.gov/ifwis/huntplanner/mapindex.aspx" target="_blank">link</a> to the maps so that you can see for yourself.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">This is a big area; probably only second in size to the large Owyhee - South Hills Elk Zone in Southern Idaho. To be precise, the Panhandle Zone is 4,978,871 acres, or 7,780 square miles.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;"><b>Terrain/Land Ownership</b></div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">Most of the Zone contains the Coeur d'Alene Mountains, the Selkirk Mountains, and the Cabinet Mountain range. This is the "Northern Woods" of Idaho, and if you're traveling to them from the south, you'll see the habitat change in short order from Lewiston on up to Sandpoint. It's one of the reasons that Idaho is a great state - there's a lot of variety here, and that should become clear when comparing the Panhandle Zone to Southeast Idaho's Tex Creek Zone.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; color: black; text-align: center;"><a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-8VrsDsxdI4A/Txh-P0_IwcI/AAAAAAAAAnk/lFXVMz9dtgY/s1600/Panhandle+1.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" height="243" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-8VrsDsxdI4A/Txh-P0_IwcI/AAAAAAAAAnk/lFXVMz9dtgY/s320/Panhandle+1.jpg" width="320" /></a></div><div style="color: black;">It is wooded here. And it is thick. In an earlier post in this series, I mentioned that the Dworshak Zone is like hunting in a rainforest. It is even more so in the great north of the Panhandle. This is thick and brushy terrain, and only for those who know what they're getting themselves into, because what you're getting yourself into is something difficult to get yourself out of. The brush is always thicker when climbing out.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">It is hilly and mountainous, and very wooded. I can't emphasize enough that this is a different world than the semi-open nature of some of the other Zones we've looked at so far, such as the Salmon or Snake River Zones. I am tempted to say that the Panhandle Zone is more archery friendly, but maybe that's just my terrain bias coming out. It just seems that the archers might have quite an edge by getting a good setup, and then calling a rutting bull in. Rifle hunters are on the tail end of the rut, at best, and aren't getting any animals coming their way. That is, of course, generally speaking, and I'm sure there's plenty of rifle hunters who could show me wrong.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">Units 1, 2, 3, 4, 4A & 5 are 43% private, 44% Forest Service, and 9% State of Idaho. It is 72% forested, 19% of it is designated as dryland agriculture. Units 6, 7 & 9 are 32% private, 60% Forest Service, and 6% State of Idaho. It is 89% forested, and 9% is designated as rangeland. Some of that private ground is corporate timber ground, and open for hunting. Lack of finding ground to hunt is not an issue in this Zone. If you don't want to rough it, Bonners Ferry, Sandpoint, and Coeur d'Alene are all big enough to have chain hotels. If you really don't want to rough it, then stay at the Coeur d'Alene Resort & Casino and play golf.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; color: black; text-align: center;"><a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-D21WLeC8VVE/Txh-ZVnPFsI/AAAAAAAAAns/25mLXdkTRus/s1600/Panhandle+2.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"><img border="0" height="241" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-D21WLeC8VVE/Txh-ZVnPFsI/AAAAAAAAAns/25mLXdkTRus/s320/Panhandle+2.jpg" width="320" /></a></div><div style="color: black;">But as with most or all places in Idaho, getting deep into the woods is the name of the game. And this is the kind of area where scouting can really pay off. If you're looking at coming to Idaho to hunt, this Zone might be a good choice if you're accustomed to hunting in this kind of terrain, or you can adjust easily. Otherwise, you can easily be swallowed up in the forested mountains of the Panhandle.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;"><b>Herd Health & Stats</b></div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">The goal for the Panhandle Zone is to maintain 2,900-3,900 cows and 600-800 bulls (of which 350-475 are mature bulls). 2009 surveys showed that the elk population is exceeding those objectives in every category, but there is reason to be concerned for decline. The 2009 survey showed there were 4,339 cows and 1,256 bulls (of which 538 were mature bulls). However, no data was collected for Units 1, 2, 3, 4A & 5. Units 1, 3 & 5 are some of the more successful areas to hunt in the Panhandle Zone, so the stats given below are heavily skewed, as they depend on this data. The elk/square mile and bulls/square mile should probably be doubled, at the very least.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;"><b> </b></div><div style="color: black;">In the early 1900's there were very low numbers of elk in this area. After 1910 some massive forest fires created excellent elk habitat, and the population began to grow. In the 1940's some elk were translocated to Units 1, 4 & 6 from Yellowstone, and the population continued to grow steadily. Elk habitat in the wake of the fires was excellent through the 1950's & 1960's, and then started to decline again as thick underbrush took over. Extensive logging helped the herd's cause in the 1980's & 1990's, but now the habitat decline is steady, and will not be significantly helped until or unless another big fire comes along.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">Another major factor for the herd's current health is the impact that the winters of 2007-2008 and 2008-2009 had. These were record setting snowfall years, and the snow piled up, even at the lowest elevations. That first winter was so wild that nobody could have predicted that '08-'09 could be worse. This led to big worries over calf recruitment rates, which were appearing to be low following those winters. However, the next winter was milder, and recruitment rates began to improve.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">And while logging activities helped elk habitat in the short term, in the long term they left logging roads that are still accessible to vehicles. That, of course, reduces the amount of land that the elk would otherwise tromp around in more freely.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">And I haven't even gotten to wolves yet. There's over 20 established packs in the Panhandle region. As of January 11, 2012, 29 wolves were harvested with a firearm, and 9 more have been trapped. There are a lot of wolves in this area, and the bears and mountain lions are other effective predators.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; color: black; text-align: center;"><a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-mzRtCWnVo5c/Txh-eej0e8I/AAAAAAAAAn0/2sWpjSOS5gk/s1600/Panhandle+3.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" height="252" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-mzRtCWnVo5c/Txh-eej0e8I/AAAAAAAAAn0/2sWpjSOS5gk/s320/Panhandle+3.jpg" width="320" /></a></div><div style="color: black;">So right now the herd is in a precarious position. It has seen growth and decline, and the balance is figured by a lot of complex factors - predators, weather, and habitat. I see the herd as being fair, number-wise, right now. But I do not see it improving in the short term, unless we have some big fires and serious reduction of wolves.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">Here's the stats, but let me qualify these. In previous posts I've felt that my stats were within reason, even if there was some creative, yet informed, guesswork involved. I'm a little hesitant to even put numbers to the Panhandle Zone because I'm not confident with the info I have. So having said that, I'll slap these numbers down as the best I could do without sitting down with a biologist for a couple of hours. I would appreciate any feedback if others have better guesses.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">Elk/Square Mile: 0.72 (See above comments.)</div><div style="color: black;">Hunters/Square Mile: 1.0</div><div style="color: black;">Bulls/Square Mile: 0.16 (See above comments.)</div><div style="color: black;">Average Hunter Days: 6.6</div><div style="color: black;">Bull Harvest Percentage: 13%</div><div style="color: black;">Percent Spikes Harvested: 28%</div><div style="color: black;">Percent 6+ points Harvested: 25%</div><div style="color: black;"></div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;"></div><div style="color: black;"><u><i><b>Tex Creek Elk Zone</b></i></u></div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;"><div style="color: black;"><b>The Hunt</b></div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; color: black; text-align: center;"><a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-leDrLJsxPjE/Txh-khOuVvI/AAAAAAAAAn8/zmAZ8eDrbEg/s1600/Tex+Creek+Map.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"><img border="0" height="197" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-leDrLJsxPjE/Txh-khOuVvI/AAAAAAAAAn8/zmAZ8eDrbEg/s320/Tex+Creek+Map.JPG" width="320" /></a></div><div style="color: black;">In 2011, archery seasons preceded the any-weapon seasons from August 30 - September 30. The A-tag any-weapon season is a cow only hunt that lasts from Oct. 22 - Nov. 30. The B-tag is the one we'll be focusing on here because it's the one that offers the any-weapon antlered tag. That season lasted from Oct. 15 - Oct. 21.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;"><b>Location</b></div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">The southwest corner of the Tex Creek Zone starts at Fort Hall. The border then follows I-15 north to the junction with HWY 91. From there, the border follows HWY 91 north to Shelley, where it basically becomes HWY 26. HWY 26 continues north through Idaho Falls, right past a Forest Service station in case you need some last minute maps, and then curls east towards the metropolis of Ririe. After Ririe, the north border of the Zone changes from HWY 26 to the South Fork of the Snake River. The South Fork is a fly-fishing destination, so plan a few extra days with your fly rod. You'll regret it if you don't, especially once you see it for the first time. The north border follows the South Fork through Palisades Reservoir to the Wyoming border.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; color: black; text-align: center;"><a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-1PlzGeFAkds/Txh-r2e3MwI/AAAAAAAAAoE/21_UdMrIRqg/s1600/Tex+Creek+LO.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" height="197" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-1PlzGeFAkds/Txh-r2e3MwI/AAAAAAAAAoE/21_UdMrIRqg/s320/Tex+Creek+LO.JPG" width="320" /></a></div><div style="color: black;">The south borders get a little tricky with numerous Forest Service roads and watershed divides. The Tex Creek Zone is made up of Unit 66 and 69. To the south are the Diamond Creek Zone and the Bannock Zone. The Snake River Zone is on the east, and the Palisades Zone is to the north. There are 1,149,591 acres, or 1,796 square miles.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;"><b>Terrain/Land Ownership</b></div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">As you can see on this land ownership map, the Caribou National Forest Service ground (shaded green) is located in the northeast corner of the Tex Creek Zone. State of Idaho owned ground is checkered in the middle (shaded blue) among the private ground (shaded white). The Fort Hall Indian Reservation (shaded pink) is located in the southwest corner of the Zone.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; color: black; text-align: center;"><a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-8RxHKb4dY3U/Txh-0yuIuSI/AAAAAAAAAoM/YyMYF-bRNU0/s1600/Tex+Creek+terrain.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"><img border="0" height="202" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-8RxHKb4dY3U/Txh-0yuIuSI/AAAAAAAAAoM/YyMYF-bRNU0/s320/Tex+Creek+terrain.JPG" width="320" /></a></div><div style="color: black;">49% of the ground in the Zone is private, 19% is Forest Service, 15% is Indian Reservation, and 12% is State of Idaho. Do not hunt on the Reservation unless or until you get permission. I'm unsure of the hunting rules that the Tribe has, but I would not want to be caught dead trespassing with a gun in hand. I know that the tribe issues spendy waterfowl hunting permits, but I don't know about big game. Call ahead. </div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">The Forest Service land just south of the South Fork is where the exciting terrain is. The closer you get to Palisades Reservoir, the more mountainous it becomes. Peaks approach 9,000 ft. in elevation, but most of the canyons in the area will range from 6,400 ft. up to 7,000 or 8,000 ft. The rest of the Zone has an average elevation somewhere between 6,000 and 6,500 ft., but the steepest areas to hunt are in the Forest Service ground.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">The terrain is semi-open, as can be seen in the aerial photo above. In the mountains, the north slopes will be timbered, and the south facing slopes will be open. As you go in and out of drainages, you go in and out of the woods. It is plenty open to spend time glassing before chasing. Outside of the Forest Service ground, the Zone really opens up. It is hilly, and the creeks and canyons in those hills will hold aspens and shrubs. If you hunt here, you'll find it's excellent moose habitat just about all over.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; color: black; text-align: center;"><a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-hIpP2rWWuIU/Txh-6d1v5LI/AAAAAAAAAoU/yN2cxDTK1r4/s1600/Tex+Creek+1.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" height="240" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-hIpP2rWWuIU/Txh-6d1v5LI/AAAAAAAAAoU/yN2cxDTK1r4/s320/Tex+Creek+1.jpg" width="320" /></a></div><div style="color: black;">Access to happy hunting grounds is not difficult. There are plenty of Forest Service roads to take you where you want to go. This, of course, makes it a popular unit. There's plenty of hunters with their ATV's here. </div><div style="color: black;"><br />
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</div><div style="color: black;">I really can't report any bad news about the Tex Creek Zone herd health. The habitat here holds elk well, and there's plenty of wintering ground. People will report mixed reports on how many elk they see, but all indications are that the herd is strong. A factor that determines elk visibility is the weather. Many Tex Creek elk spend the summer to the south in Unit 66A, which is in the Diamond Creek Zone, and then winter back in the Tex Creek Zone. So to a certain extent, this is a weather depending hunt. If there aren't early snows, many of the elk may hang up in the Diamond Creek Zone. Note that the Diamond Creek Zone does not have a general season, any-weapon hunt.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; color: black; text-align: center;"><a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ApP4NM7gmdI/Txh_K3FuKUI/AAAAAAAAAoc/w0xzsiAYHqg/s1600/Tex+Creek+2.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"><img border="0" height="80" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ApP4NM7gmdI/Txh_K3FuKUI/AAAAAAAAAoc/w0xzsiAYHqg/s400/Tex+Creek+2.jpg" width="400" /></a></div><div style="color: black;">The objectives are to winter 2,000-3,000 cows and 425-625 bulls (of which 250-350 mature bulls are desired). The 2010 survey counted 2,277 cows and 577 bulls (of which 325 were mature). That all sounds good, but the numbers won't be as good during the Oct. 15-21 time period, as some of those may still be in the Diamond Creek Zone. The IF&G has hinted that it makes more sense to manage this herd by including Unit 66A (Diamond Creek Zone) with the Tex Creek Zone. However, I suspect that there are other reasons ($) that will prevent that from happening, as the Diamond Creek Zone draws a lot of non-resident archery hunters.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">The bear density is low and steady, and mountain lions are present. Wolves are not a huge factor here. Yes, they are seen occasionally in the Tex Creek Zone, but the only established pack in the Zone was annihilated in 2009 due to depradation complaints. No wolves have been harvested in the 2011-2012 wolf hunting season in either the Tex Creek Zone or the Diamond Creek Zone.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">Overall, the herd is healthy. Typically, bulls have been over-harvested and cows have been under-harvested here. Thus, we have a lengthy cow tag on the A-tag, and only a week-long antlered tag on the B-tag.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
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</div><div style="color: black;">Elk/Square Mile: 1.6</div><div style="color: black;">Hunters/Square Mile: 1.6</div><div style="color: black;">Bulls/Square Mile: 0.32</div><div style="color: black;">Average Hunter Days: 4.2</div><div style="color: black;">Bull Harvest Percentage: 7%</div><div style="color: black;">Percent Spikes Harvested: 24%</div><div style="color: black;">Percent 6+ points Harvested: 25%</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;"><i><b>Analysis & The Winner </b></i></div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">This is not purely about comparing the stats, as my Panhandle Elk Zone stats are not scientific enough (I should be pretty close with the Tex Creek stats). Both Zones are popular hunting grounds. If you're the kind of person that just wants to get away from other hunters, then the Panhandle Zone should be your choice. In the Panhandle it won't take long for you to hike a few miles up a gated logging road, and it will be just you and the wild. Not so with the Tex Creek Zone. There you will find a ton of road hunters, and just when you think you've left it all behind, somebody will be zipping atop the opposite canyon on their four-wheeler. It would not be fair to categorize the entire Tex Creek Zone that way, but when you hunt there, you will see other hunters.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">The biggest difference between the two Zones is terrain. These Zones are on complete opposite sides of the state, and it takes two opposite styles of hunting. In Tex Creek you can glass - spot and stalk. No such thing in the Panhandle. In the Panhandle you have to be ready to beat the brush, literally. Tex Creek is easier hunting, no doubt about it.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">In the end, I'm going to declare the Tex Creek Elk Zone as the winner here. I think it is easier to kill a bull there. Unless you have trail cams set up over wallows in the Panhandle's timber, or you have time to hit the trails on multiple scouting trips, or you are a logger who knows where the elk are, then you can have a tough time of it. That's not to say you can't be successful by hitting the Panhandle cold, it's just a lot harder, and expectations of success should be kept in check. On the other hand, anybody can hunt Tex Creek, and it's a matter of hunters pushing the elk around. And it's a matter of weather.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
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</div>Unknownnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2268984578214104826.post-25778477307930675072012-01-18T08:37:00.000-08:002012-01-18T08:41:58.424-08:00Interview With Idaho Waterfowl Association - Part 4<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-toL1wcAILC8/Txb1QRkzTLI/AAAAAAAAAnM/m9-NH0rmmW0/s1600/iwa.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-toL1wcAILC8/Txb1QRkzTLI/AAAAAAAAAnM/m9-NH0rmmW0/s1600/iwa.jpg" /></a></div><div style="color: black;"><i>One of the hot topics facing the Idaho outdoorsman is the issue of guided bird hunts. Currently, Idaho does not license and allow guided waterfowl hunts (actually, there are 4 licensed guides grandfathered in after the moratorium), but it is considering changing that. Believe it or not, change from that current structure will have all sorts of impacts on the way we hunt waterfowl. The <a href="http://www.idahowaterfowl.org/" target="_blank">Idaho Waterfowl Association</a> agreed to answer some questions I had regarding the issue, so many thanks go to them for giving us the lowdown of their stance. This is the fourth and final part of the interview. You can read the first part <a href="http://www.idahoman.com/2011/12/interview-with-idaho-waterfowl.html" target="_blank">here</a>, the second installment <a href="http://www.idahoman.com/2012/01/interview-with-idaho-waterfowl.html" target="_blank">here</a>, and the third one <a href="http://www.idahoman.com/2012/01/interview-with-idaho-waterfowl_13.html" target="_blank">here</a>. Enjoy... ~ J. Bunch</i></div><div style="color: black;"><i> </i><b> </b></div><div style="color: black;"><b>Idahoman: How is the IWA fighting against outfitting/guiding of waterfowl in Idaho? Why is it important to join IWA, and how can one join?</b></div><div style="color: black;"><br />
Answer IWA: The IWA has taken the fight to the general waterfowl hunter in Idaho by placing a variety of topics and discussion threads on various waterfowl hunting sites. Our main place for the discussion on this topic being the forums on the IWA website:<a href="http://www.idahowaterfowl.org/" target="_blank"> http://www.idahowaterfowl.org/</a> . And of course interest from such outdoors enthusiast as you giving the IWA a forum to be able to open this topic up to all the public in Idaho certainly helps.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
By completing your request to do this series, we hope the information is less sporadic and misunderstood with many that were not sure that this issue was even being considered or evaluated by the OGLB.<br />
</div><div style="color: black;">For that the IWA thanks you, and I am sure the Idaho Public thanks you for opening the door to something that could take away one of Idaho’s sportsmen/women’s precious natural resources if they don’t become and stay active in this venture.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
We have been, and still are one of the principle participants and a voting member of a group of individuals brought together by the IDFG and the OGLB to discuss and evaluate waterfowl and turkey outfitting and guiding in Idaho. </div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">IWA has also used online polling to get a pulse of how water-fowlers in Idaho really feel on this subject. The IWA found that there is a pretty significant base out there that is against the implementation of outfitting/guiding for waterfowl. We have also found that there is also a significant number of individuals, as with any movement, that are against something, but fear stepping up and voicing their opinion for fear of retaliation from those on the opposite side of an issue. </div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">IWA is also a member of the Idaho Sportsmen’s Caucus Advisory Council (ISCAC) which has also expressed concern about additional outfitting and guiding programs in Idaho. ISCAC represents over 22,000 enthusiastic sportsmen/women through their various Sportsmen’s groups (<a href="http://www.idahoscac.org/" target="_blank">www.idahoscac.org » About ISCAC</a>) ISCAC took a formal position against any further guiding or outfitting for waterfowl in Idaho. <a href="http://idahowaterfowl.org/library/PDF/2012/guiding/ISCAC%20position%20statement.pdf" target="_blank">http://idahowaterfowl.org/library/PDF/2012/guiding/ISCAC%20position%20statement.pdf </a></div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">IWA has continually pushed on the Idaho press/media members to generate articles on this subject also, and this will continue.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
The IWA stays in continual contact with the IDFG on this issue as well as monitoring the OGLB for any changes that take place. This is especially important since there seems to be information pertaining to this topic placed on their website or discussed in their meetings that is not passed on to the Waterfowl/turkey Advisory Group as has been demonstrated in prior postings of this series.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
The importance of joining the IWA is very important to water-fowlers. We all know that with any organization, not everyone agrees in total on all issues, but, those differences help to formulate a stronger and much stronger stance on issues that affect what that group stands for, and that is no different with the IWA. But, in most cases, a strong organization in many cases can influence and have a much stronger relationship and partnership with other agencies and individuals than an individual can.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
The IWA also encourages it’s members as individuals to also speak up and talk to their legislators, Agency representatives, and other elected individuals throughout Idaho to show them that they are engaged in activities such as this and that they do have an opinion and voice in what and how Idaho’s natural resources are going to be managed and used.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
If your readers don’t think that the Idaho Outfitters and Guides Association (different than the Outfitters and Guides Licensing Board) don’t lobby your state legislators, one is fooled. So it becomes very critical that the IWA and individuals throughout Idaho have a similar voice. And that is why it is very critical to have a group such as the IWA to be able to work with and talk to these different Idaho Agencies.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
Readers can join the IWA in several ways. By going to the IWA website (<a href="http://www.idahowaterfowl.org/" target="_blank">Idaho Waterfowl Association</a>) and there is a link that allows one to join by direct payments to the IWA or by use of credit card and/or Pay Pal. The IWA is a 501c organization so your dues are tax deductible. But, being a 501c organization, we are also limited in what lobbying and such that we can do.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
The IWA mission statement is:</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
<i><b>“Idaho Waterfowl Association is an organization dedicated to enhancement and preservation of waterfowl and waterfowl hunting in Idaho.”</b></i></div><div style="color: black;"><br />
With the goals of the IWA being:</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
<i><b>• Interaction with policy makers</b></i></div><div style="color: black;"><br />
<i>One of IWA's primary goals is to work in conjunction with the Idaho Department of Fish and Game to promote waterfowl hunting regulations based on the best available biological data. Part of this goal will be achieved by becoming a resource of scientifically sound information pertinent to our state, gathered from USFWS and national waterfowl organizations. IWA will present a unified voice to the IDFG Commission for the state's waterfowl hunters.</i></div><div style="color: black;"><b><br />
<i>• Conservation and habitat</i></b></div><div style="color: black;"><i><br />
While major habitat restoration efforts are best managed by larger organizations and agencies, IWA will do what we can to assist other waterfowl organizations and government agencies, as well as organizing smaller projects among our membership. We understand that it is the responsibility of each waterfowl hunter to do what he or she is able to do to preserve the conditions required for waterfowl populations to thrive. IWA will promote the wise use of our natural resources in the best interest of waterfowl.</i></div><div style="color: black;"><i><br />
<b>• Education and recruitment</b></i></div><div style="color: black;"><i><br />
We recognize the importance of involving the next generation of hunters in waterfowl hunting. To that end, IWA plans to be involved at reasonable levels in youth hunt organization and educational presentations on the subject of safety, ethics and waterfowl identification.<br />
We also recognize that many adult hunters would benefit from similar educational events, and will strive to provide opportunities where hunters and future hunters of all ages can enjoy learning about waterfowl and waterfowl hunting.</i></div><div style="color: black;"><i><br />
<b>• Community awareness</b></i></div><div style="color: black;"><i><br />
One of the problems facing waterfowl hunting in Idaho is the encroachment of development on our state's rivers and wetlands. Many of the state's new residents are not familiar or comfortable with the hunting heritage that Idaho has been defined by for so long. We recognize that it is our responsibility as hunters to be good neighbors and work so that safety of all is maintained.</i></div><div style="color: black;"><br />
We hope that more of your readers will from time to time stop by the IWA website and learn more about issues and projects that the IWA is working on to meet our goals and mission statement, keeping all water-fowlers in mind, member or not.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
Even if you are not a member of the IWA, we encourage all sportsmen and women of Idaho to become involved on this topic if you want to preserve your waterfowl hunting experience.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
The IWA would like to thank you for you taking the time to put this topic out there helping to educate Idaho’s Sportsmen and women on a topic that the majority of Idahoan’s had no idea was going on or how complex and contentious it is.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
If there are more questions that you or your readers have, please feel free to contact the IWA and we will try to answer them for you. We can be contacted by the following e-mail account:<br />
<a href="mailto:iwabod@gmail.com">iwabod@gmail.com</a><br />
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</div>Unknownnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2268984578214104826.post-46441784673902124842012-01-17T11:49:00.000-08:002012-01-17T11:49:32.152-08:00Why Sagebrush Matters<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-7-860pqg6wE/TxXQuZThDxI/AAAAAAAAAnE/hNHwVx3prM0/s1600/Lava%2B%2526%2BSage4.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear:left; float:left;margin-right:1em; margin-bottom:1em"><img border="0" height="338" width="400" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-7-860pqg6wE/TxXQuZThDxI/AAAAAAAAAnE/hNHwVx3prM0/s400/Lava%2B%2526%2BSage4.jpg" /></a></div><br />
<div style="color: black;">It is estimated that nearly 50% of Idaho is sagebrush steppe rangeland/high desert. Mule deer, elk, and antelope depend upon it for protection and concealment, and coyotes and mountain lions find it ideal for stalking stealthily through. Hawks and eagles battle with the squirrels and rabbits continually, and the battlefield is that sagebrush covered high desert.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">It is important habitat for a lot of reasons. Besides that, it is beautiful. I was born in the wet rainforests of Western Oregon, and whenever we would cross over the Cascades to visit the dry side, I was engulfed with the vast sea of sagebrush - a mysterious place, where over any rim-rocked plateau might stand a dozen mule deer, their white nose bridges staring back.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">Nothing got my heart racing like a little excursion and adventure to the high desert. And I still feel the same way. But conservation of the things we love does take work, at least from time to time. It was hard for me to ever believe that there could be a shortage of sagebrush. I have traveled everywhere in the U.S. where it exists, and the impression I got was that sagebrush was <i>the</i> noxious weed. I thought nothing could stop it or threaten it, and I had pictures of the Great Basin to prove it.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">But in Idaho, there are some things that do threaten the sagebrush that holds important habitat, namely fires and real noxious weeds. The battle with noxious weeds is continual, and it unfortunately takes a great deal of public resources to fight. Fires are generally speaking an act of God. There's not much that can be done when dry lightning strikes the dry Southern Idaho deserts. </div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">Great efforts go into re-seeding burnt areas, or areas that are deficient of the sagebrush that they should have. But this is hard work. There's no grand commercial sagebrush seed farms. Most of the seed comes from volunteers who go out into the desert and hand-harvest the seed.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">With fires that devastated large tracts of critical mule deer habitat this past year in South Idaho, a lot of seed is needed. If you're interested in volunteering, or in just finding out more about the issue, here's a couple of links that will lead you to some good reading:</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">From the <a href="http://www.idahostatesman.com/2012/01/10/1947622/u-of-i-master-gardener-with-minimal.html" target="_blank">Idaho Statesman</a>, and then this one from <a href="http://www.boisestatepublicradio.org/2011/12/28/processing-seeds-at-the-lucky-peak-nursery/" target="_blank">Boise State Radio</a>.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><i style="color: black;">~ J. Bunch</i><br />
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</div><div style="color: black;">But the Summit's very own intention was to garner discussion with the public about the IF&G's mandate. The initial dates were simply poor planning. The complaints were the reason the dates were moved back.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">Unfortunately, archery hunters are now complaining that the earlier dates that are now set are when they are in the woods scouting for elk prior to the season. That weekend will not work either. Just kidding.<br />
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You can read the IF&G's press statement on the matter <a href="http://fishandgame.idaho.gov/public/media/viewNewsRelease.cfm?newsID=6141" target="_blank">here</a>. </div><div style="color: black;"><br />
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</div><i style="color: black;">~ J. Bunch</i>Unknownnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2268984578214104826.post-75844681865844023192012-01-13T12:29:00.000-08:002012-01-13T12:29:43.372-08:00Interview With Idaho Waterfowl Association - Part 3<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-DjjqpHmzies/TvvTVinU35I/AAAAAAAAAfI/wgd_cj6mVFs/s1600/IWA.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" height="320" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-DjjqpHmzies/TvvTVinU35I/AAAAAAAAAfI/wgd_cj6mVFs/s320/IWA.jpg" width="267" /></a></div><div style="color: black;"><i>One of the hot topics facing the Idaho outdoorsman is the issue of guided bird hunts. Currently, Idaho does not license and allow guided waterfowl hunts (actually, there are 4 licensed guides grandfathered in after the moratorium), but it is considering changing that. Believe it or not, change from that current structure will have all sorts of impacts on the way we hunt waterfowl. The<a href="http://www.idahowaterfowl.org/" target="_blank"> Idaho Waterfowl Association </a>agreed to answer some questions I had regarding the issue, so many thanks go to them for giving us the lowdown of their stance. This is the third part of the interview, with one more to follow in coming days. You can read the first part <a href="http://www.idahoman.com/2011/12/interview-with-idaho-waterfowl.html" target="_blank">here</a>, and the second installment <a href="http://www.idahoman.com/2012/01/interview-with-idaho-waterfowl.html" target="_blank">here</a>. Enjoy... ~ J. Bunch</i></div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;"><b>IDAHOMAN: What reasons would the IOGLB and the IF&G have for licensing waterfowl outfitters and guides, other than having another regulatory task for the OGLB's administration?</b></div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">Answer IWA: The Idaho Fish and Game (IDFG) does not license outfitting and guiding activities. The Idaho Outfitters and Guides Licensing Board (OGLB) has sole responsibility for this as declared in Idaho Statute, (<a href="http://oglb.idaho.gov/pdf/statutes_and_rules/2010_Idaho_Statutes.pdf" target="_blank">http://oglb.idaho.gov/pdf/statutes_and_rules/2010_Idaho_Statutes.pdf</a>)</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">Four OGLB board members are appointed by the Governor and one by IDFG. An excerpt from Idaho code 36-2105 as shown below sets up the board:</div><blockquote class="tr_bq" style="color: black;">“36-2105.CREATION OF IDAHO OUTFITTERS AND GUIDES LICENSING BOARD. There is hereby created in the department of self-governing agencies the Idaho outfitters and guides licensing board, herein referred to as "the board," consisting of four (4) members appointed by the governor, and one (1) member appointed by the Idaho fish and game commission, as provided in section 36-2106, Idaho Code.” </blockquote><div style="color: black;">This means the IDFG has the authority to have one member on the OGLB board, but otherwise they only act as an advisory body for potential effects of any proposed activity. With the remaining members appointed by the Governor they really only have to answer to the Governor’s office and primarily complaints from the outfitters/guides they oversee. They don’t get or ask for a lot of general public input.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">The reason that the OGLB has proposed this activity, as the IWA and the Advisory Group has been informed, but not proven, is that apparently there has been a request by some individuals that have made applications or request to expand this activity in different parts of the State. Who these individuals are, is unknown, and neither the IWA nor the public have any idea as to where these applications to outfit/guide are located. This is one of the reasons it is so hard to evaluate, because we do not know where the activity is wanted and what those specific impacts would or could be. The only known interest seen was from Mike Lawson with Henry’s Fork Anglers wanting to expand his operation to some new private land. Mr. Lawson was on the Advisory Group representing the outfitters.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">IDFG commissions have consistently come out against any expansion for waterfowl outfitting and guiding. The IWA does not foresee any benefit or reason to cause IDFG to change their mind.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">As for the OGLB implementing another program beyond what exists, the IWA and other groups and individuals are struggling to understand why the OGLB wants to expand this program. This is especially true in light of their own financial status and statements. The OGLB has stated in several of their semi-annual newsletters (<a href="http://oglb.idaho.gov/pdf/newsletters/2010_Fall_newsletter_with_attachments.pdf" target="_blank">http://oglb.idaho.gov/pdf/newsletters/2010_Fall_newsletter_with_attachments.pdf</a>, <a href="http://oglb.idaho.gov/pdf/newsletters/2011_Fee_Increase_Compromise_Newsletter.pdf" target="_blank">http://oglb.idaho.gov/pdf/newsletters/2011_Fee_Increase_Compromise_Newsletter.pdf</a>), that they are strapped for cash and cannot currently meet their financial obligations. So the question was asked, how can they adequately administer and implant basically a new program. The IWA and other Sportsmen’s groups do not believe they can with the limited resources and track record that they have. The IWA believes this for several reasons.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">Currently, and ever since guiding for waterfowl was permitted for the four grandfathered outfitters, the OGLB has not followed their own regulations or MOU with the IDFG requiring data and information from the existing waterfowl outfitters to be provide annually to the Idaho Fish and Game showing harvest, user, and other requested information. (<a href="http://oglb.idaho.gov/pdf/mou/mou_idfg.pdf" target="_blank">http://oglb.idaho.gov/pdf/mou/mou_idfg.pdf</a> and <a href="http://oglb.idaho.gov/pdf/statutes_and_rules/2010_Idaho_Statutes.pdf" target="_blank">http://oglb.idaho.gov/pdf/statutes_and_rules/2010_Idaho_Statutes.pdf</a>.)</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">In section 25.01.01 - RULES OF THE IDAHO OUTFITTERS AND GUIDES LICENSING BOARD rule 049 is very specific as to the reporting of harvest and use by outfitters and guides. It says,</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><blockquote class="tr_bq" style="color: black;">”049. REPORTS. The licensee shall submit to the Board on an annual basis or as otherwise required by the Board, an activity, use, and harvest report and other information about outfitting or guiding activities as may be required by the Board.”</blockquote><div style="color: black;">The IWA and all of the other Sportsmen’s groups on the Waterfowl Advisory group asked for this information, not only from the OGLB, but also from the IDFG to see if the OGLB had complied with this requirement. As of this posting, there had never been a report filed that has been provided to the Advisory Group as requested.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">As for the IDFG wanting or supporting any further outfitting and/or guiding for waterfowl, they have come out multiple times in favor of the moratorium. (<a href="http://idahowaterfowl.org/library/PDF/2012/guiding/ISCAC%20position%20statement.pdf" target="_blank">http://idahowaterfowl.org/library/PDF/2012/guiding/ISCAC%20position%20statement.pdf</a>). (<a href="http://www.idahowaterfowl.org/library/PDF/2012/guiding/fg_commission_11_18_2009_minutes.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.idahowaterfowl.org/library/PDF/2012/guiding/fg_commission_11_18_2009_minutes.pdf</a>)</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">Specifically, in the minutes of the F&G Commissioners, which read: “Deputy Director Moore explained that an informal moratorium was established in 1992 with IOGLB limiting outfitted Waterfowl, Upland Game Bird and later Turkey Hunting and that more recently, the Commission had expressed their opposition to licensing these activities.”</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">So, what changed and why the push to go further with this proposal is still not totally understood as to where it really came from other than a push from the Idaho Outfitters and Guides Licensing Board (OGLB).</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;"><b>IDAHOMAN: Let’s say that legislation is passed (I'm assuming it will take legislation) that requires waterfowl outfitters and guides to be licensed, and the state goes down that track. What would the waterfowl hunting scene in Idaho look like after 10 years?</b></div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">Answer IWA: In Idaho, it does not require legislation to implement outfitting/guiding for waterfowl or any other wildlife species. The Idaho OGLB has legal authority to implement and license all outfitting and guiding activities within the State of Idaho.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">Under the Memorandum of Understanding between IDFG and OGLB, all it generally takes is for the Idaho OGLB to ask for consultation or input by IDFG. The OGLB only has to consider that input and then they have the legal/administrative authority to implement the program. If it involves public lands, i.e.; US Forest Service and or BLM, further processes are required to approve and implement commercial outfitting and guiding on Public Lands or waters administered by these agencies.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">The OGLB’s legal authorities can be found at the following website: <a href="http://oglb.idaho.gov/rules/" target="_blank">http://oglb.idaho.gov/rules/</a></div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">To predict what Idaho waterfowl hunting would look in 10 years if guiding was allowed one should look to other states that already have guiding. In other states throughout the country, you would see a good majority of the huntable waterfowl land and water tied up by the commercial waterfowl hunting industry. In a survey that the IDFG did with other State’s wildlife management agencies, the majority showed and indicated that the general public had nothing but problems and issues with commercial outfitting/guiding for waterfowl. <a href="http://idahowaterfowl.org/library/PDF/2012/guiding/FG_state_agency_questionnaire.pdf" target="_blank">http://idahowaterfowl.org/library/PDF/2012/guiding/FG_state_agency_questionnaire.pdf</a></div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">There has been a myriad of discussions on many different websites and forums discussing waterfowl guiding in Idaho. If guiding/outfitting is allowed for waterfowl in Idaho you will see it very quickly added to the list of complaints for lost access by the general hunter. The list already includes clubs, monetary leases, development/growth, and other reasons. Why take the risk of further access being lost?</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">Idaho has a limited resource of huntable waterfowl areas and habitat with the majority being along the Snake River corridor in southern Idaho and a few isolated locations in the Idaho Panhandle. As some of the reports and discussions have shown during the Waterfowl/Turkey Advisory Groups meetings, Idaho is losing acres upon acres of agricultural lands yearly. Those agricultural lands are not considered waterfowl habitat, but, they definitely support a large population of migrating waterfowl every year. Imagine losing more of this land to the commercialization of waterfowl hunting. Do you have the money and/or financial support to pay the big bucks that many of Idaho’s surrounding states see that do allow guiding for waterfowl? The IWA is guessing that the general public of Idaho does not.</div>Unknownnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2268984578214104826.post-69994417795067215562012-01-12T15:01:00.000-08:002012-01-12T15:57:10.668-08:00IF&G May Be Softening On Summit Dates<div style="color: black;">As<a href="http://www.idahoman.com/2012/01/if-summit-classical-masterpiece-of-bad.html" target="_blank"> reported earlier</a>, the IF&G planned their Summit, a three day public input opportunity on all things Fish & Game related, on the opening weekend of archery season. That was a good way to start the Summit - with a move that shows that the IF&G is out of touch with the ones it serves. Turns out, the complaining has been heard, and the dates may be softening.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">From <a href="http://www.localnews8.com/news/30192958/detail.html" target="_blank">Local News 8</a>: </div><blockquote class="tr_bq" style="color: black;"><br />
The summit is tentatively scheduled for Sept. 7 through Sept. 9, but that's the beginning of archery season. Gamblin said he is hearing people's complaints, and the agency is trying to work it out.<br />
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"Because we hunt, too. The Fish and Game department understands inherently why that is of great concern to hunters," Gamblin said.</blockquote><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;"><i>~ J. Bunch</i></div>Unknownnoreply@blogger.com